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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Motor Trend info on next gen GTO

http://www.motortrend.com/future/spi...0309_news_gto/


Some conflicting things here.... such as the 2007-2010 range... we are all pretty much saying here that it will be 2007... 2010 would be quite a push back... especially since the current GTO must follow Holden plans.

The other conflicting part is that the next GTO would continue to be assembled in Australia...
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Just like it says in the article: the current one is not even in the showrooms yet and here we go on speculating about the next model already...

What ever happens to it is pretty much anybody's guess right now... I'm sure GM will keep us posted.

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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I'm sure GM will keep us posted.

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I'm sure they wont. Just like they keep us posted on the next Camaro?

GM keeps its future projects pretty much in the dark to the rest of the world.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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I'm sure they wont. Just like they keep us posted on the next Camaro?

GM keeps its future projects pretty much in the dark to the rest of the world.

If you keep your mind and your eyes open, there is enough information about the next Camaro out there to satisfy most.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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I'm sure they wont. Just like they keep us posted on the next Camaro?

GM keeps its future projects pretty much in the dark to the rest of the world.
When ever they are ready to give out information, they will.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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This goes against everything that has been said on this board in the last couple of weeks.

I still believe the new gto will be here in 2007 not 2010. And it will be built here in america.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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What I've gathered from the MT article and from info here and there, it that the new GTO will be on the Sigma-Lite chassis. A chassis that Holden is doing the engineering work on. Sounds like this new chassis will be the basis for GM's next group of Austrailian, Middle Eastern and some Europen models. And thus like the current global platform it will be built in Austrailia. For the simple ease and cost savings of sharing building and production of similar models on one line.

The good news for American GTO lovers is the next car will be seperatly designed and should be more of what people we're looking for out of this GTO.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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And thus like the current global platform it will be built in Austrailia. For the simple ease and cost savings of sharing building and production of similar models on one line.
There is no way in hell Holden could produce sufficient cars to satisfy the US market. The current factory is running 24/7 to pump out cars. To satisfy the US market Holden would have to either expand the elizabeth plant or build a new plant. Neither will happen IMO. Sigma-lite/VE/whatever will be produced in the US and Aus.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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There is no way in hell Holden could produce sufficient cars to satisfy the US market. The current factory is running 24/7 to pump out cars. To satisfy the US market Holden would have to either expand the elizabeth plant or build a new plant. Neither will happen IMO. Sigma-lite/VE/whatever will be produced in the US and Aus.
thats what will prob will happen.

eg.. the HFV6 has two engine plants, one in Canada and one here Oz, both produce the same motors, with some slight variations, namely capacity.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by PacerX
If you keep your mind and your eyes open, there is enough information about the next Camaro out there to satisfy most.
Like what? . The only thing we know is that it is coming back sometime soon. There isn't even enough info to speculate/base things on. What very little we know is vague. Hardly satisfying.

To get back on topic, i'd put my bet on the 2007 year model or whatever is planned for the Ausi monaro. 2010 does sound like a push back. How far does the current chassis and manaro date back to? .
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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Like what? . The only thing we know is that it is coming back sometime soon. There isn't even enough info to speculate/base things on. What very little we know is vague. Hardly satisfying.
You haven't been paying attention.

Go back through a ream of posts and it'll start coming together for you.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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Holden has been using the current platform since 97. Don't know when it was first introduce in an Opel tho. The monaro was first sold to the public late 2000 I think from memory.

And FYI currently Holden are at VY2, mid 2004 should be VZ with a new 5 speed auto and HFV6. Then in around mid 2005 Holden is expected to release VE. It would make sense that US production starts 6-9 months after Aus starting.

Edit: one more thing, there has been occasional talk of a VZ2 in mid 2005, and VE in early/mid 2006. But i don't know if that is overly accurate.

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by crYnOid
There is no way in hell Holden could produce sufficient cars to satisfy the US market. The current factory is running 24/7 to pump out cars. To satisfy the US market Holden would have to either expand the elizabeth plant or build a new plant. Neither will happen IMO. Sigma-lite/VE/whatever will be produced in the US and Aus.
I agree but so far that seems to be the case. Now you may know more about this but we've been told here the Elizabethtown Plant has recieved some upgrades and advencements just for the GTO. I could see this go both ways. Maybe Holden is trying to control the Sigma-Lite/VE chassis like Caddy does here. Maybe GM feels the GTO will stay a 18,000-20,000 unit per year vehicle.
More questions than answers thats for sure>
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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I agree but so far that seems to be the case. Now you may know more about this but we've been told here the Elizabethtown Plant has recieved some upgrades and advencements just for the GTO.
For the GTO Holden put on a third shift to take production to 24/7 and 1000 new workers. I don't know of anything else that has been done in the plant to accomodate the GTO.


I could see this go both ways. Maybe Holden is trying to control the Sigma-Lite/VE chassis like Caddy does here.
From what guionM has said that sounds like it is the case, but not in the same way caddy controls sigma. From what guionM has said Holden will run the factory and build they cars for the US brands.


Maybe GM feels the GTO will stay a 18,000-20,000 unit per year vehicle.
I think this will be one car that will be made in the US when a factory is setup. I expect Holden to ship cars over to the US but only low volume specialty cars that would be to much trouble for the US to manufacture.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by PacerX
You haven't been paying attention.

Go back through a ream of posts and it'll start coming together for you.
I must have missed it then. I'll look back, and i'm sure i'll find info, but i don't know about being satisfied.

crYnOid, Thanks for the info. That's another strike against this 2010 projection. Why drag it 10 years?

Of course, that may be different here in the U.S market since the GTO will come on as a 2004 year model. By 2010, it'd be 6 years old. Still, a new Monaro should call for a new GTO since they're based off each other.

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