Motor Trend info on next gen GTO
09-24-2003, 02:53 PM
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Lutz seems quite pleased with this new platform as a less-expensive V8/RWD solution than the Sigma (it is cheaper than Sigma...that's a big difference). He was quoted as saying this will show up in Pontiac and Chevy models, possibly as soon as 2005.
So the V8/RWD Monte Carlo rumors for 2005 are probably true. The 2007 Camaro seems on track. It's about time.
-Bone
So the V8/RWD Monte Carlo rumors for 2005 are probably true. The 2007 Camaro seems on track. It's about time.
-Bone
09-24-2003, 04:37 PM
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I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Don't automatically assume that the Monte Carlo is going RWD, or will even survive past 2005.
It may in fact become a RWD car or it's name may end up dead. How many of you refered to the upcomming midsize Pontiac or compact Chevrolet replacements as Grand Am and Cavalier just a month or 2 ago?
A RWD Monte Carlo is far from a certainty right now. 6-8 months ago, it was headed to the bone yard in 2005, so don't bet the farm just yet.
It may in fact become a RWD car or it's name may end up dead. How many of you refered to the upcomming midsize Pontiac or compact Chevrolet replacements as Grand Am and Cavalier just a month or 2 ago?
A RWD Monte Carlo is far from a certainty right now. 6-8 months ago, it was headed to the bone yard in 2005, so don't bet the farm just yet.
09-24-2003, 05:08 PM
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Guion I can only think of one thing that might show the similarities between Insigna and the Sigma chassis. If anyone can find out the cowl hieght on the Insigna. That, if I remember correctly, is one of the main reasons why a lowslung coupe couldn't be built on the true Sigma structure. If Insigna has a relatively low cowl height then that means that VE/Sigma light isn't just a rehashed Sigma there are differences. Lets see if we can figure this out.
09-24-2003, 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by 91_z28_4me
Guion I can only think of one thing that might show the similarities between Insigna and the Sigma chassis. If anyone can find out the cowl hieght on the Insigna. That, if I remember correctly, is one of the main reasons why a lowslung coupe couldn't be built on the true Sigma structure. If Insigna has a relatively low cowl height then that means that VE/Sigma light isn't just a rehashed Sigma there are differences. Lets see if we can figure this out.
Guion I can only think of one thing that might show the similarities between Insigna and the Sigma chassis. If anyone can find out the cowl hieght on the Insigna. That, if I remember correctly, is one of the main reasons why a lowslung coupe couldn't be built on the true Sigma structure. If Insigna has a relatively low cowl height then that means that VE/Sigma light isn't just a rehashed Sigma there are differences. Lets see if we can figure this out.
What would you say if I told you that Insignia was built off of a well worn CTS donor car?
BTW, here are some dimensions.
http://www.conceptcarz.com/folder/ve...vehicleTypeID=
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09-24-2003, 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by guionM
I would really like to find out details about Insignia's chassis. Insignia is GM's new global RWD car chassis. I think it would put alot of questions to rest (when you get down to it, we're all really guessing to some degree or another).
As for struts, let's not put a blanket condemnation on them. Doesn't a BMW 3 series use them and the 4th gen use a variation of them as well? Both have stellar reputations as top handling cars over vehicles with more sophisicated front suspensions.
Low cost doesn't always mean low performance. If you want a great deal in your next Camaro, then be ready to pay a great deal for your next Camaro.
I would really like to find out details about Insignia's chassis. Insignia is GM's new global RWD car chassis. I think it would put alot of questions to rest (when you get down to it, we're all really guessing to some degree or another).
As for struts, let's not put a blanket condemnation on them. Doesn't a BMW 3 series use them and the 4th gen use a variation of them as well? Both have stellar reputations as top handling cars over vehicles with more sophisicated front suspensions.
Low cost doesn't always mean low performance. If you want a great deal in your next Camaro, then be ready to pay a great deal for your next Camaro.
Senior Holden guy at Frankfurt show: "It (Insignia) is interesting, but it's not relevant to what we're doing."
09-24-2003, 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Oz Mickey T
Senior Holden guy at Frankfurt show: "It (Insignia) is interesting, but it's not relevant to what we're doing."
Senior Holden guy at Frankfurt show: "It (Insignia) is interesting, but it's not relevant to what we're doing."
A) GM is completely full of crap in the description of this "new" architecture and it's depiction of it as a "world RWD platform"
OR.............
B) VE will be mainly for Holden.
BTW, when this senior Holden guy said "we're"....was he refering to Holden specifically or GM?
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