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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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More on the Employee Pricing results as it winds down...

I highlighted what I thought was the most important part...

So many people can only see the "bad" in something... when there is usually a lot of good that doens't get discussed as much.

GM sees big results from employee discount plan By Theresa Howard, USA TODAY
Mon Aug 22, 7:10 AM ET



Among marketing giants, there have been the cola wars, the sneaker wars and the burger wars. In recent weeks, it's been the car wars.


As the big-name brands duked it out for market share and sales to clear inventory, it's been a good time to be a car shopper, a not-so-good time to be an investor as carmakers sacrificed profit margins, and a great time to be in the business of selling advertising to the industry.


General Motors kicked off the latest battle in June, with an ad blitz announcing a companywide initiative - "Employee Discount for Everyone" - across its eight brand divisions. Ford Motor and DaimlerChrysler (on its U.S. models) followed almost immediately with similar discounts and ad buys.


The incentives have proved wildly successful in clearing unsold 2005 vehicles to clear the way for 2006 models. July sales were the highest for a single month, according to tracker Autodata. The month's sales of cars and light trucks were up 16.2%, to 1.8 million.


Such incentives are taking a toll on the industry, however. Automakers remain locked into 1995 price levels in dollars adjusted for inflation, says Dave Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research, a non-profit organization that tracks auto trends.


"The industry has not been able to raise prices for at least 10 years," Cole says. "Their prices have been constant, and that's not sustainable."


As a result, even as GM continues to advertise its employee discount, the ads are featuring a Total Value Promise that incorporates premium GM features such as On-Star and stronger warranty coverage packaged into prices.


That means once the "Employee Discount" offer is finished on Sept. 6, prices might be on the rise, Cole says.


"What you are going to see is prices creep up," Cole says.


Carmakers need that to restore profitability, but it won't be easy with shoppers accustomed to discounts and doing price-comparison homework on the Internet.


"More people are shopping on the Internet than ever before," says Steve Hill, GM's general director of retail marketing. "If your (sticker price) and equipment content are not in line with consumer expectations, you're not going to get on the shopping list."


To help make its way onto more shopping lists, GM tapped real employees to star in the series of ads by McCann Erickson's Birmingham, Mich., office touting its employee pricing plan. GM's divisions such as Buick and Chevrolet developed similar campaigns for particular brands.


In the GM ads, employees are shown in front of various GM models, such as a GMC Yukon Denali, talking about their pride in GM and saying the company is doing "something we've never done before." The final frame features a woman who says, "You pay what we pay. Not a cent more."


"We wanted to tell a story using our employees and pay it off with a compelling offer to motivate consumers," Hill says.


While the offer has been hugely popular with consumers, the ads are not, according to results of Ad Track, USA TODAY's weekly consumer survey. Of those familiar with the ads, 11% like them "a lot," vs. Ad Track's overall average of 21% and the 19% average for auto ads.


Despite that low likability score, consumers clearly thought the ads worked. Some 30% rated the ads "very effective" - well above the average of 21%.


Hill was surprised by the results. "It's absolutely the best stuff we've ever tested," Hill says. He says consumer awareness for the employee discount plan hit 93%.


GM hopes it can keep the new buyers attracted by the discounts coming back with the Total Value Promise.

In the two months of the employee pricing, GM doubled its sales to non-GM owners.

"Once we invite them in the family, they usually stay," Hill says.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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I was skeptical as to how well that program was going to do, but I guess they made a believer out of me yet.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Its been very succesful as far as I can tell. My dad even got my mom a new 05 Grand Prix. He's never bought a new car of a show room floor,or at least not in the last 25 years.
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Well I am glad they reached some new customers, hopefully there wont be any bad dealer service that will scare them away. What are the latest market share numbers?
Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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That line in orange? I LOVE THAT
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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I was driving by one of the larger Chevrolet dealerships here in Kansas City last weekend. This dealership has a small lot right in front and then a very, very large lot for stock to the side that probably equates to a city block in size. As I drove by the front of the dealership, looked pretty normal. Some Colorado's, some Aveos, some Malibus and Malibu Maxx. Could see they had a black 2006 Impala front and center on the showroom floor. Once I got past the dealership to the "stock" lot, which I've never to my recollection seen anything less than 3/4 full - sometimes you go on the weekend and can barely walk through there the cars/trucks are so tight - and I was absolutely blown away to see that it was almost completely empty! Other than about a dozen cars and trucks arrayed around the edges of the lot facing the street there was nothing at all in a lot that usually has probably 70 or 80 vehicles on it. So, I guess the employee pricing did a pretty good job of clearing out inventory for that dealership!
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
Once I got past the dealership to the "stock" lot, which I've never to my recollection seen anything less than 3/4 full - sometimes you go on the weekend and can barely walk through there the cars/trucks are so tight - and I was absolutely blown away to see that it was almost completely empty! Other than about a dozen cars and trucks arrayed around the edges of the lot facing the street there was nothing at all in a lot that usually has probably 70 or 80 vehicles on it. So, I guess the employee pricing did a pretty good job of clearing out inventory for that dealership!
I noticed the same thing at my local Chevy dealer. There had always been several rows of stock cars off to the left, usually parked within like 2 feet of each other, parked pretty tight basically. One day I went past and there were only like 6 cars on that whole side of the lot, and even in front of the dealer there were HUGE gaps between where cars were always previously at.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Hmm... this thread is to on track and there have been no attacks on the CEO of the compnay.

Say where is Buickman???
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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It's nice right now. Let's see how it pans out in the next few months with the "Total Value Promise" and new models coming out. Obviously they're not going to sell as much as they did with the employee pricing, but how much is what I'm waiting for, considering they have new models (Impala, Monte, etc. for 06).
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Looking at it from a negative point of view:

It sucks for the people that bough their vehicles at full price right before these discounts were priced out.. And I guess the values of the vehicles are devalued now, so resale will even be lower..

Makes me start thinking perhaps I should always hold off and wait till another "employee pricing" round on my next vehicle now. Else shop on another brand thats market value is more stable...
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Re: More on the Employee Pricing results as it winds down...

Originally Posted by Ken S
Looking at it from a negative point of view:

It sucks for the people that bough their vehicles at full price right before these discounts were priced out.. And I guess the values of the vehicles are devalued now, so resale will even be lower..

Makes me start thinking perhaps I should always hold off and wait till another "employee pricing" round on my next vehicle now. Else shop on another brand thats market value is more stable...
What the hell does resale value have to do with jack. People should hold onto cars longer.

Getting a new car every freaking year is just stupid.
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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yea sure, lots of us at least try to keep our cars for a while, in a perfect world.


In reality, lots of people sell of their vehicles for whatever reason.. some earlier, some later.. so resale value does come into play over the total term of ownership of the vehicle.... which works into the overall value of the car.




Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
What the hell does resale value have to do with jack. People should hold onto cars longer.

Getting a new car every freaking year is just stupid.

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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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It sucks for the people that bough their vehicles at full price right before these discounts were priced out
Huh? Who, in the last four years since GM started showing leadership on domestic pricing discounts, has paid full price (aside from my aunt, whom I believe is the last person left on Earth who wanders into a dealer and pays sticker price)? There's just about NOBODY naive and uninformed enough nowadays to go in and pay sticker. And the GM employee pricing wasn't a huge departure, from what I could see, from the rebates and incentives which were changed to accommodate it. I doubt there was a heck of a lot of difference in real prices paid for given models in the last few months. But the overall marketing EFFECT of the program was definitely huge
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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The thing that caught my eye the most when driving past a Chevy dealership was what they had sitting in the used car lot. I drove past a couple of nights ago and in the used lot there were about 15 cars. All but one of them was an SUV. Has anyone else noticed this?
Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Good time to get an SUV everybodies selling them because of gas prices. Better get them before they come back down though... (probably have a few months...)



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