Major C6 News!
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Wow- I'm pretty speechless- cam-less, never heard of it! Wow.
That weight reduction sounds ambitious- the C5 is already lightest in it's class.
Forget 500 lbs- I'll be impressed with 200.
Now how about that ligh weight F-5 program.....
Any rumor on an displacemtn bump to 6.0???
That weight reduction sounds ambitious- the C5 is already lightest in it's class.
Forget 500 lbs- I'll be impressed with 200.
Now how about that ligh weight F-5 program.....
Any rumor on an displacemtn bump to 6.0???
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by formula79:
No one at the time thought that teh Monaro was a possiblity. I did however know that come high or hell water Pontiac would have a halo car by 2004, and it would probaly be called GTO. The reason I said Bowling Green was because that was the only place that had the capacity and ability to build a specialized car for Pontiac...which I assumed to be sigma based. I was told point blank several time sthat no cars were coming from Holden. However as far as Pontiac making a car by 2004 named GTO I was correct
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No one at the time thought that teh Monaro was a possiblity. I did however know that come high or hell water Pontiac would have a halo car by 2004, and it would probaly be called GTO. The reason I said Bowling Green was because that was the only place that had the capacity and ability to build a specialized car for Pontiac...which I assumed to be sigma based. I was told point blank several time sthat no cars were coming from Holden. However as far as Pontiac making a car by 2004 named GTO I was correct
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That said, I want to point out that your "own" (as opposed to "sources")prediction of Pontiac having a GTO for sale in 2004 was correct. Yet Pontiac's not making GTO. That company were told no cars were comming from is.
Pontiac wanted a halo car, but unless it made financial sense, it wasn't going to happen...especially under Ron Zarella. Regardless as to how high the water was.
Commodores & Monaros were being extensively tested here in the US (even here in San Diego of all places!). That's where I was first told they were almost certainly comming. Later a few friends at HSV and Holden also said Monaro was being shaken down for the US. I figured it was going to be Camaro. Right car, wrong division.
Again, don't take this as a flame. I just have a long memory, and you seemed like you were trying to imply you were privy to some type of GTO secret last year, when in fact all of the GTO (not to mention Holden) info you recieved was completely wrong.
Hope you fired your sources since then.
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From: CNY
It's about time for a cam-less engine. I remember an independant company working on electro-hydraulic valve actuation about 10 or 15 years ago. Their name was Auri, or something like that.
Now if we could just get a **** on the dash so we could adjust the valve lift, duration, and timing; that would be cool.
Think of it, the **** scale could say "gettin' groceries" on one end and "stompin' snakes" on the other.
Now if we could just get a **** on the dash so we could adjust the valve lift, duration, and timing; that would be cool.
Think of it, the **** scale could say "gettin' groceries" on one end and "stompin' snakes" on the other.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by HuJass:
It's about time for a cam-less engine. I remember an independant company working on electro-hydraulic valve actuation about 10 or 15 years ago. Their name was Auri, or something like that.
Now if we could just get a **** on the dash so we could adjust the valve lift, duration, and timing; that would be cool.
Think of it, the **** scale could say "gettin' groceries" on one end and "stompin' snakes" on the other.</font>
It's about time for a cam-less engine. I remember an independant company working on electro-hydraulic valve actuation about 10 or 15 years ago. Their name was Auri, or something like that.
Now if we could just get a **** on the dash so we could adjust the valve lift, duration, and timing; that would be cool.
Think of it, the **** scale could say "gettin' groceries" on one end and "stompin' snakes" on the other.
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Actually... why not?
I'd imagine the computer would adjust the timing to the type of driving you are doing... tamer for putting along on the free way, and super agressive when the throttle is mashed.
The switch on the dash could lock you into the super agressive mode for spirited driving... Kind of like how SUV's have "Auto AWD" , yet you can lock it into 2WD, or 4WDhi , or 4WDlo...
This whole concept just opens a whole world of possibilities!
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All i have to say is WOW, they are planning some big technology advances for the new vette if this is true.
42V power systems, this has been coming for years.
Aluminum body, this has been on the radar for awhile too, but i didn't think they had the manufacturing process worked out.
The big one i'm impressed with is the electrically actuated valves. Displacement on demand becomes a programming concern, not a mechanical one, covering emissions standards for the next 20 or more years. You also have a lot less moving parts to worry about too, increasing reliability of the engine and cutting cost.
42V power systems, this has been coming for years.
Aluminum body, this has been on the radar for awhile too, but i didn't think they had the manufacturing process worked out.
The big one i'm impressed with is the electrically actuated valves. Displacement on demand becomes a programming concern, not a mechanical one, covering emissions standards for the next 20 or more years. You also have a lot less moving parts to worry about too, increasing reliability of the engine and cutting cost.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by HuJass:
It's about time for a cam-less engine. I remember an independant company working on electro-hydraulic valve actuation about 10 or 15 years ago. Their name was Auri, or something like that.
Now if we could just get a **** on the dash so we could adjust the valve lift, duration, and timing; that would be cool.
Think of it, the **** scale could say "gettin' groceries" on one end and "stompin' snakes" on the other.</font>
It's about time for a cam-less engine. I remember an independant company working on electro-hydraulic valve actuation about 10 or 15 years ago. Their name was Auri, or something like that.
Now if we could just get a **** on the dash so we could adjust the valve lift, duration, and timing; that would be cool.
Think of it, the **** scale could say "gettin' groceries" on one end and "stompin' snakes" on the other.
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Sport mode: Shocks switch to smoothest ride, engine switches to best economy.
Race mode: Shocks switch to aggressive mode for best handling, engine cranks up the heat.
Drag mode: Shocks switch for best launch, engine switches to best straight-line acceleration.
It would be awesome
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by guionM:
Let me say first off, I'm not flaming ya or anything, we've had some good debates, & I enjoy your site & your BON work.
That said, I want to point out that your "own" (as opposed to "sources")prediction of Pontiac having a GTO for sale in 2004 was correct. Yet Pontiac's not making GTO. That company were told no cars were comming from is.
Pontiac wanted a halo car, but unless it made financial sense, it wasn't going to happen...especially under Ron Zarella. Regardless as to how high the water was.
Commodores & Monaros were being extensively tested here in the US (even here in San Diego of all places!). That's where I was first told they were almost certainly comming. Later a few friends at HSV and Holden also said Monaro was being shaken down for the US. I figured it was going to be Camaro. Right car, wrong division.
Again, don't take this as a flame. I just have a long memory, and you seemed like you were trying to imply you were privy to some type of GTO secret last year, when in fact all of the GTO (not to mention Holden) info you recieved was completely wrong.
Hope you fired your sources since then.
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Let me say first off, I'm not flaming ya or anything, we've had some good debates, & I enjoy your site & your BON work.
That said, I want to point out that your "own" (as opposed to "sources")prediction of Pontiac having a GTO for sale in 2004 was correct. Yet Pontiac's not making GTO. That company were told no cars were comming from is.
Pontiac wanted a halo car, but unless it made financial sense, it wasn't going to happen...especially under Ron Zarella. Regardless as to how high the water was.
Commodores & Monaros were being extensively tested here in the US (even here in San Diego of all places!). That's where I was first told they were almost certainly comming. Later a few friends at HSV and Holden also said Monaro was being shaken down for the US. I figured it was going to be Camaro. Right car, wrong division.
Again, don't take this as a flame. I just have a long memory, and you seemed like you were trying to imply you were privy to some type of GTO secret last year, when in fact all of the GTO (not to mention Holden) info you recieved was completely wrong.
Hope you fired your sources since then.
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honestly i think Bowling Green was the plan until Lutz went down under in Feb.
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guionM-
Just wondering, but San Diego is somewhat of a broad area. If you can tell that is, or hint, what areas of San Diego has testing gone on? When I'm out of La Jolla in that region, I'd like to know to keep my eyes open and my camera ready.
Just wondering, but San Diego is somewhat of a broad area. If you can tell that is, or hint, what areas of San Diego has testing gone on? When I'm out of La Jolla in that region, I'd like to know to keep my eyes open and my camera ready.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mervz:
For those questioning the camless engine..
Circular Piston Aircraft Engines have been using electronic valves for YEARS...
Its just a matter of time until it made it into cars..
-Zane</font>
For those questioning the camless engine..
Circular Piston Aircraft Engines have been using electronic valves for YEARS...
Its just a matter of time until it made it into cars..
-Zane</font>
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AMAZING piece of info gathering Branden and Zane!
I can help with the above quote.
My most recent timetable looks like this:
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (GMX245-07) Jan 2004
Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (GMX245-67) Jun 2004
Chevrolet Corvette Hardtop (GMX245-87) Dec 2004
A significant power boost is expected for 2008MY
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">There have been rumors flying of a mythical high-tech engine swirling for about a year now...but no one knew what it was. I was told by someone that the timeframe for "high-tech" engine was 07-08, so don't expect the C6 to debut with this engine! Remember how long it took us to get the C5 based Z06!</font>
My most recent timetable looks like this:
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (GMX245-07) Jan 2004
Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (GMX245-67) Jun 2004
Chevrolet Corvette Hardtop (GMX245-87) Dec 2004
A significant power boost is expected for 2008MY
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TED ONLINE
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From: AU
Found this-
http://www.autospeed.com/A_0910/page1.html
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http://www.autospeed.com/A_0910/page1.html
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Oh yeah..I don't know if teh article mentions it, but don't expect the cam-less engine until 07-08. It still has alot of development work..plus remembe rit too them a few years after the C5 Vette was released to roll out the Z06.
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I remeber reading in GMHTP about 6 months ago about camless engine technology that GM was looking into. I think in the article, it said that GM had already built a camless engine that they were testing. It makes perfect sense that they would put it in their #1 techno car, the Corvette. And about everything in the Vette trickles down! Cool!
One question, is this technology being used in any race application? Like maybe F1? Just wondering!
Dax
One question, is this technology being used in any race application? Like maybe F1? Just wondering!
Dax
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This explains why GM has shown no interest in those cams with holes that were supposed to eliminate the valves altogether. I thought that was a good idea but this sound like a breakthrough. How long untill this trickles down to all cars, like the ones I can afford?