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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Huh? Is there something different about the exhaust on the car pictured? It could be aftermarket I guess. I don't really know.
Not sure if it's a whole Z06 exhaust or just muffler design, but if you look closely at the inboard exhaust tip of each muffler, you can the butterfly valves which open at WOT for a more "direct" exhaust route through the mufflers. Some of the guys on the Corvette boards are thinking that the exhaust may be a part of the Z51 package. Actually, Big Al said all that AT THE BEGINNING of this thread. Take a look at: http://www.chevrolet.com/pop/corvett...exhaust_en.jsp to see what Chevy says about it on the Z06.


And in case anyone thinks that the engine is just an LS2 with "LS3" on the engine covers.....notice what looks like a resonator/baffle coming off of the right side of the intake tract just forward of the bellows.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris_Doane
OEM's sometimes use dealer plates on test cars. Hyundai/Kia cars can often been seen with New York dealer plates. I'm sure this group of Corvettes is just a pilot build going through some final shakedown.
It just seems like a stretch to me. Consider me cautious.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
It just seems like a stretch to me. Consider me cautious.


How's your backpedal?
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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What is MCE?
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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What is MCE?
Mid-cycle enhancement.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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How's your backpedal?
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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How's your backpedal?
Paybacks do suck!

Pretty good, actually, I played cornerback in high school football.

Nija edit: spelling.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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If this is real, 430hp at 30 mpg, I would be very happy. Of course the Camaro weigh more and I like the LS2 so Im not unrealistic I think.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Well, when you start an interior out from the get-go as "barely acceptable compared to the competitor's product which has been out for 4-5 years already and will receive a complete refresh in another 1-2 years", then you put out a sub-par product. It's not realistic to say "well on this one year GM had just put the vehicle out and Honda still hadn't updated and I think they were almost kind of comparable to each other". The fact is if you put out an interior in 1997, it should be a 1997 interior, not a 1992 interior just because the competition hasn't quite redesigned their models.
That is what I've said. GM put out fine interiors for 1997. Were they best in class, maybe not, were they worst in class? No. Keeping that "good in 1997" interior until 2004 is the problem. 2000 or 2001 Corvette should have got an all new interior. Same goes for the 2004 Silverado and the 2004/05 Trailblazer.

Also go look at a 90's Honda Civic interior, they are cheap as hell. 2005 Toyota Corolla same thing. Also look at any Kia, cheap.

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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
Nija edit: spelling.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Also go look at a 90's Honda Civic interior, they are cheap as hell. 2005 Toyota Corolla same thing. Also look at any Kia, cheap.
Do you realize that you're pointing out base model econo box interiors? For that class of vehicle anything that is decent to look at, functions properly, and doesn't fall apart = as good as anyone should expect.

For example, what I'm talking about... where you start having a problem is when GM thinks it's acceptable to take the interior from the basic Chevy Silverado, which is a work-purpose vehicle that starts well under 20k, and stick a few shiny bits and extra ***** on it and deem it suitable for placement in a 50-60k dollars Cadillac Escalade.
It was barely acceptible when it first came out, much less by 2006 where it made Caddy just look downright embarrassing.

20k dollar work truck first, 60k dollar luxury SUV second...




Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Do you realize that you're pointing out base model econo box interiors? For that class of vehicle anything that is decent to look at, functions properly, and doesn't fall apart = as good as anyone should expect.

For example, what I'm talking about... where you start having a problem is when GM thinks it's acceptable to take the interior from the basic Chevy Silverado, which is a work-purpose vehicle that starts well under 20k, and stick a few shiny bits and extra ***** on it and deem it suitable for placement in a 50-60k dollars Cadillac Escalade.
It was barely acceptible when it first came out, much less by 2006 where it made Caddy just look downright embarrassing.
I don't disagree with you about the last Escalade. That should have had its own interior. The 1995 Olds Aurora had a great interior for its time and class, The First Escalades didn't. Some home runs and some misses. Over all I'd say that GM interiors have been at about the middle of the pack, average.

Again my biggest problem is that they put out an ok interior for its time and then let it sit for 6-7 years and turn into a bad interior for its time.

Nissan, Chrysler, Kia, Subaru, Mitsubishi, the Korean companies, and about 1/2 of Fords have in general always been at or below GM interiors. VW interiors sucked until about 2000 and they are really the ones that started this trend of better interiors in cheaper cars. BMW and Mercedes have just about always made nice stuff IMO.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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I don't think the average Corvette buyer is an interior hugger. But with that said, I still think they should make it look a little nicer with better materials, then they might pick up some buyers who are interior huggers.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
And just how in the hell do you buy a car that hasn't even been publically released? Let alone production hasn't been started!
That car wasn't for sale, who ever said it was? Or did you just come up w/ that on your own?

If you're interested in where these pictures came from...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1682975

And here is the link to the event the car was shown at...

http://www.internationalcouncilcorvette.com/

Here is the VIN # for the car in question, the 10th digit is the code for the model year. 5-2005, 3-2003, and so on. What does the 10th digit say?
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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That car wasn't for sale, who ever said it was? Or did you just come up w/ that on your own?

If you're interested in where these pictures came from...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1682975

And here is the link to the event the car was shown at...

http://www.internationalcouncilcorvette.com/

Here is the VIN # for the car in question, the 10th digit is the code for the model year. 5-2005, 3-2003, and so on. What does the 10th digit say?
Wow calm down, breath, breath. You Ok now?

Good.

I wasn't aware that a dealer plate would be available for a preproduction car. As I thought all preproductions needed to have a MANUFACTURE plate. Reasonable isn't it. All the preproductions I have ever seen had MANUFACTURE plates. A dealer plate to me indicates the car is in a dealer's possession. Therefore it must be a saleable model. And since actual production hadn't started the story seemed a little far fetched. Make sense? Now that I know that dealer plates can be used on preproduction cars it seems reasonable.

Also read the whole thread I already admitted I was wrong. But given the data I had my conclusion was logical.

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