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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 07:14 AM
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lower US tariffs on cars

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Mr Vaile says he is confident an agreement to lower tariffs on cars in the US will be finalised by the end of the year, something he says will further boost jobs in Australia's car industry.
What are the current tariffs on imported cars? could this mean trucks too? can you say ute?
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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Re: lower US tariffs on cars

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What are the current tariffs on imported cars? could this mean trucks too? can you say ute?
That's whole point right? Can you say Chevrolet El Camino SS?
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 02:18 PM
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Of course what helps the Ausies which I'm all for helps the Japs, Korean, and German imports as well.
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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Not really - a FTA between Aus and the US will not change the way products from other countries are tariffed ...
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Is this going to be a lower tariff on ALL imports (which is HUGE news if it is) or just Australian cars? I hope its just Australians...
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Just Aus according to the media over here ...
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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unless something changed that I missed, there are no tarriffs placed on cars coming into the United States..........

There are, however, tarriffs put on U.S. cars going to other nations.........(not Canada.........)
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Red Planet
unless something changed that I missed, there are no tarriffs placed on cars coming into the United States..........

There are, however, tarriffs put on U.S. cars going to other nations.........(not Canada.........)
BASTARDS! All of 'em.. 'Cept Canada. eh?
Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Red Planet
unless something changed that I missed, there are no tarriffs placed on cars coming into the United States..........

There are, however, tarriffs put on U.S. cars going to other nations.........(not Canada.........)
Its the truck tariff that crynoid is talking about..

Hence the El Camino talk..

Thats *IF* the free trade agreement goes ahead between Australia & US. I'm specualting that if that happens Holden will probably drop the Opel small to mid size imports and look to the states for those cars.


EDIT : Thats also *IF* they can source RHD cars..


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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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unless something changed that I missed, there are no tarriffs placed on cars coming into the United States..........

There are, however, tarriffs put on U.S. cars going to other nations.........(not Canada.........)
That's really sad. Put tarriffs up the rear on those imports if those countrys want to play that way. Lets watch their economy go down the hole. In fact, I think tarriffs should be put on any import manufactures products, including the ones made in the US. In the 30's, Japan wouldn't even let the US manufactures sell cars in Japan unless they were run/owned by Japanese so that their own auto manufactures could grow. Time for Bush to do the same or something similiar IMO.
Old Oct 22, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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Grand Prix, have you ever thought a moment about why the big 3's products sucked so badly in the 70s and 80's? It was because of tariffs placed on imports to aid the domestic manufacturers. It insulated them from a superior competition and kept them from having to improve.

Competition is always superior to isolation, as is evidenced by the fact that basically every nation with a market economy and free and open trade has a higher standard of living than those that do not. Economic activity creates economic activity, a high tide lifts all boats, etc. etc.

Personally I would not want to purchase domestic cars if tariffs were raised so high as to discourage import car purchases...I shudder to think of GM returning to poor quality they churned out 20-30 yrs ago.
Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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In the 30's
The 30's? MAN!, you sure can hold a grudge!
Did you forget that they were imperialists, there was a war, we nuked them, and have reconciled since?
Get over it. If Detriot could produce higher quality cars that people actually want, and that last over the long term, then it wouldn't be an issue. Until such day, my new cars will continue to be built in Marysville, Ohio.

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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 08:06 AM
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If Detriot could produce higher quality cars that people actually want, and that last over the long term, then it wouldn't be an issue. Until such day, my new cars will continue to be built in Marysville, Ohio.
They do. The only thing that stands in the way of returned domination for Detroit's companies is import mentality. Not the product. It's the thinking that the imports are better when in reality they are not that stop the purchase of a GM product versus an import. As soon you drive as many vehicles (of EVERY make and model of nearly every year) as I do in a year, then you can make a statement like that.
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Todd80Z28
If Detriot could produce higher quality cars that people actually want, and that last over the long term, then it wouldn't be an issue. Until such day, my new cars will continue to be built in Marysville, Ohio.

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And if you actually knew something about automobiles, you might be dangerous.
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Todd80Z28
The 30's? MAN!, you sure can hold a grudge!
Did you forget that they were imperialists, there was a war, we nuked them, and have reconciled since?
Get over it. If Detriot could produce higher quality cars that people actually want, and that last over the long term, then it wouldn't be an issue. Until such day, my new cars will continue to be built in Marysville, Ohio.

Todd
Todd,

A lot of people here follow just this kind of stuff very closely. If you do not have facts or objective reasoning to back up your statements you will not be taken seriously. To quote Bob Lutz:

"If you look at J.D. Power ranking by make — by nameplate — as opposed to by corporation, Toyota is actually now in ninth place. And Buick, Chevrolet and Cadillac are ahead of Toyota. It's only when you lump Lexus and Toyota together that Toyota barely squeaks out a first-place position."

According to J.D. Power the 2004 Grand Prix outranks the 2003 Accord in Mechanical Quality, Feature and Accessory Quality, Body and Interior Quality, and Overall Quality based on experiences of actual owners. It's true....I just went over to the J.D. Power website and looked it up myself. GM as a whole is now above industry average and is equal to BMW. Mercedes, admired for it's German engineering, is actually well below industry average. As you stated in your post....Time passes things change. Are you still holding onto your grudge?

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