Loan deal for auto industry to be announced shortly....
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I agree with the point that they need to share their working plan with experts outside GM to get the money. Possibly Govt experts to confirm the plan is viable for the loan. I dont think it should be general public info though do you? I mean what good are future comany secrets and product development if everyone knows them and might possibly beat you to market with your own design? Or how detrimental would it be if your competition can anticipate and counter your future plans? I certainly wouldnt want to invest in a company that had to show its competitors their playbook.
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I would like to know just what qualifies government to judge what a viable plan for profitability looks like. Knowing their track record and inability to manage anything, especially money; I seriously doubt their ability to judge the business model of a hardware store in North Dakota.
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Now this is where you are wrong. Whoever buys a union plant is bound by the contract to uphold the agreement. When Daimler bought Chrysler, they bought the union contracts. When Cerberus bought Chrysler, they bought the union contracts. When my former plant was sold, the new company had to buy the union contracts.
In my union book, Article 24 (successorship) is very clear about sales & transfers. It reads:
"This Agreement shall be binding upon the Employer's successors, assigns, purchasers, lessees, or transferees, whether such succession, assignment, or transfer effected voluntarily or by operation of law, and in the event of the Company's merger or consolidation with another Company or Companies, this Agreement shall be binding upon the merged or consolidated company."
In my union book, Article 24 (successorship) is very clear about sales & transfers. It reads:
"This Agreement shall be binding upon the Employer's successors, assigns, purchasers, lessees, or transferees, whether such succession, assignment, or transfer effected voluntarily or by operation of law, and in the event of the Company's merger or consolidation with another Company or Companies, this Agreement shall be binding upon the merged or consolidated company."
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Well, first of all, whether I watched the skit or not; it has nothing to do with the accuracy of my statement regarding stereotypes.
Moving on, no, I don’t watch SNL but yes, I have seen some of the skit and as soon as NBC posts the entire skit on their website (which they haven't as i write this) I’ll watch the whole thing.
In any case, I suspect your problem with the skit has less to do with inaccuracies and more to do with not liking what was said.
Moving on, no, I don’t watch SNL but yes, I have seen some of the skit and as soon as NBC posts the entire skit on their website (which they haven't as i write this) I’ll watch the whole thing.
In any case, I suspect your problem with the skit has less to do with inaccuracies and more to do with not liking what was said.
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Well, first of all, whether I watched the skit or not; it has nothing to do with the accuracy of my statement regarding stereotypes.
Moving on, no, I don’t watch SNL but yes, I have seen some of the skit and as soon as NBC posts the entire skit on their website (which they haven't as i write this) I’ll watch the whole thing.
In any case, I suspect your problem with the skit has less to do with inaccuracies and more to do with not liking what was said.
Moving on, no, I don’t watch SNL but yes, I have seen some of the skit and as soon as NBC posts the entire skit on their website (which they haven't as i write this) I’ll watch the whole thing.
In any case, I suspect your problem with the skit has less to do with inaccuracies and more to do with not liking what was said.
When the actors as the CEOs apologized for being late because their American cars kept breaking down.
When the actors go on to explain very specific problems with very specific models. All of which is untrue. The cars mentioned DO NOT have the problems they mentioned.
But the public does not know this. They will think that these are real problems with real cars. Or it will reinforce the false notion that American cars are inferior.
This again is the media painting an unfavorable view of the American auto industry.
And that's what I have a problem with.
The skit was out of line.
So yes. I did not like what was said BECAUSE of all the innaccuracies and sterotypes.
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It was filled with inaccuracies.
When the actors as the CEOs apologized for being late because their American cars kept breaking down.
When the actors go on to explain very specific problems with very specific models. All of which is untrue. The cars mentioned DO NOT have the problems they mentioned.
But the public does not know this. They will think that these are real problems with real cars. Or it will reinforce the false notion that American cars are inferior.
This again is the media painting an unfavorable view of the American auto industry.
And that's what I have a problem with.
The skit was out of line.
So yes. I did not like what was said BECAUSE of all the innaccuracies and sterotypes.
When the actors as the CEOs apologized for being late because their American cars kept breaking down.
When the actors go on to explain very specific problems with very specific models. All of which is untrue. The cars mentioned DO NOT have the problems they mentioned.
But the public does not know this. They will think that these are real problems with real cars. Or it will reinforce the false notion that American cars are inferior.
This again is the media painting an unfavorable view of the American auto industry.
And that's what I have a problem with.
The skit was out of line.
So yes. I did not like what was said BECAUSE of all the innaccuracies and sterotypes.
SNL's whole existence for the past 30+ years has been based on being "out of line".
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I think what's more painful is the inaccuracies in news and newsy (such as on 'Science Friday' this week). The SNL skit is just more piling on.