Not expecting anything other than a V8 powered, rear drive, performance coupe.


Pontiac has always wielded an inordainant amount of power considering their sales totals regarding performance cars. The Firebird kept bigger more powerful engines than Camaro in the 1st & 2nd gen, the 3rd gen Firebirds got their own sheet metal, unlike the 1st & 2nd gens, 4th gen Firebirds not only again got their own skin, they also had no fewer than 4 front & rear ends, while Camaro made due with 2 fronts and a revised set of tail lights. Pontiac got the Holden Monaro CV8 as a stop gap car, while Chevrolet had nothing. There's more as well.

It's not that Pontiac is calling the shots, it's that Pontiac is more coddled than Chevrolet, and gets more of what they want.

Chevrolet wasn't even going to get a zeta sedan initially, though Pontiac was from the start. Pontiac is also getting a ferocious G6 coupe within a year. Chevrolet Malibu will continue being a questionably looking 4 door sedan with a more .... "sedate" engine.

 

Till we actually see what this car actually is, I have to respectfully disagree.

 

Oh, me neither.

Just like the GTO..................

 

from what i've read, the new mopar is riding GM's butt. if this RWD coupe isn't what we're hoping for, dcx will proudly claim the spot.
thats not to say that dcx won't try if the RWD coupe is a big hit.

 

I will be at maximum disgust at GM till they bring back my Camaro without stripping it of it's identity. I'm one of the few that has held with the promise not to buy a GM vehicle till they broughtthe Camaro back (As if they had much to offer in the first place). GM just sucks, I wish they would've showed the love Ford shows the Mustang..

 

Actually Al, I disagree here. Chevrolet NEEDS both of those things. Theres two HUGE voids in the Chevy lineup right now that those cars would fill up rather nicely.

Once again, all this talk of a Zeta coupe without the Camaro name worries me. At this point, if Chevy releases a Zeta coupe NOT called Camaro, it would seem that the Camaro would be a more niche like vehicle if it were to return. That, to me, is not good news.

 

I could careless....no point in being disgusted about something you cant do anything about

 

Nicely said. They do NEED those cars and the Camaro as a low-production car, just isn't right.

 

I dont see the void! I think that you WANT a RWD V8 sedan and coupe...but think like GM for a sec. They dont NEED to put them there when Chevy is a bread and butter car company, and where FWD cars will do just fine. They can just use the Impala and Monte forever.
In Pontiacs case, where they want to be more of a sport oriented company, a RWD chassis for a coupe and sedan would seem to be of more priority before Chevy.
Sure, you or Chevy might WANT it...but in GM's mind, they dont NEED it.

 

No.

Chevrolet, the lead division of GM, (and it's most popular/known division) NEEDS cars with appeal and needs to reach more audiences. RWD/V8/full-size = Chevy, they lead the market for years and years. They also need to stop with the plentiful FWD/V6, boring mediocrity, and plain cars. They need a car like the B-Bodies and Impala SS's. They need something 300C-like. They need RWD/V8 and inspiring cars. They need class-leading designs and they need to take back markets. They need to try and get things out before everyone else and they need excitement. Chevrolet needs to be Chevrolet again. Who'll be fans of this time in Chevy's history years from now? Answer: No one. What cool cars will they talk about besides the Corvette? Answer: None.

 

I am not disgusted at all.

 

I'll tell you what GM needs. GM needs Chevy to be a very strong global brand. It needs Chevy to become more than the cheap, crappy appliance division.

Let's face it, GM's core brands are Chevy and Cadillac. All the others, Pontiac, Buick, Saturn, GMC, etc, are merely peripheral brands.

 

im not disgusted at all i say this is outta my realm of control so why fret over it if it was ment to be then it will be but if not ohhh well that sucks but i will still have my camaro
i say its all good let them do their thing (makin cars) and we will do our thing (buyin cars)
and if they dont have THE car for you then buy what you want thats available

 

It's this sort of short sighted thinking that is driving GM into the ground. GM should NOT be just tha American Kia, making cheap crappy econoboxes. GM has always had cars with appeal to the youth, and getting young fans means you have a car buyer when they get older. Honestly, you think a young teen now is going to become a GM fan from the Cavalier his friend has that has eaten a few transmissions already? The Impala and the Monte are cars that appeal to a select group of people, and that's an older group of people who are buying Chevy because they have a loyalty to Chevy. What happens when those people aren't around anymore? GM isn't making any fans to replace them. Someone in charge at GM is thinking like you, and that's why the company is doing so poorly right now.

Chevy NEEDS to give customers what they WANT, or they are going to go even further down the tubes than they are now. Making cars that are worse than all of their competition for a higher price is driving the company into the ground.

Chevy used to know what it's market wanted. It made it for years, and that's what kept it as such a successful brand. Lately, it has no idea about what the customer wants, and seems to just hand a car making formula to some economist and tells him to put out the cheapest piece of crap they can make, so they can turn the most short term profit. This is not the way to run the largest automaker in the world.

 

I am sure there are credible sources out there that would say otherwise. I guess we wont know until they hit the show room.

I still say that if Zeta does not spawn a 5th gen Camaro, we will not get one (at least not this decade).

Of course lately that doesn't seem to bother too many people. I am surprised at how many people on a Camaro website are willing to accept any RWD, affordable coupe from Chevy.

Sorry not me. I want a Camaro, and that is all I will accept.