btw, any news on what tranny they will be using, and any possibility on using the new 6 sp. auto when it comes out??

 

Maybe the Monte could be based of the Malibu, While I love RWD I think it is important that they keep some FWD cars.

 

I know we keep hearing how 2 doors aren't in vouge anymore...

But if GM keeps killing them, then GM is losing my business. I refuse to drive a 4 door car. Refuse. I chose a 2 door GT over a 4 door GTP for that sole reason. I hate 4 doors.

I am glad a new Camaro is coming....VERY glad. But, I don't expect to have one as a daily driver when a 5th gen comes out. I am going to have to make my GP last as long as I possibly can...because I can't drive a RWD car up here year-round. I could, but it sucks. Plus, I wouldn't want to get a beautiful new 5th gen (my first NEW Camaro) crappy in the winter.

Until GM comes out with a nice quality, stylish FWD COUPE, I ain't biting on anything but a new Camaro from GM. Other than a Monte, there is not one car from GM for 2004 I'd really want to buy...

 

The new camaro may have an AWD option if its going to be built of the VE Chassis.

 

The AWD option would rule for us folks up here in the Northeast who get hammered with snow each year. I was thinking about trading in the Z for something else but I think I'm going to hold onto it and save my pennies for a new camaro. I hope they nail the styling on it! I hope it comes back with a mean look (Pi$$ed that it was put on a hiatus). Exciting times are ahead........

Colin
98 Z28

 

not to sound snippy but when the AWD debate was thrown around last few years it was FLAMED...really bad..even I posted a topic about it and got flamed of how it will never be a Camaro if its AWD...but I think its possible and should be an option. Now alot of people embrace an AWD Camaro...go figure..


The bird comming back?? the only way it can come back is if it fits between the Solstice and the GTO..maybee a limited production car????

 

Mate I agree

THe AWD option will be there...why not offer it??

As it doesn't get cold enough here to snow, (except in the mountains) the need for FWD in the winter is not an issue. Having said that if I was living in an environment where snow was an issue, AWD would be a great option. You get the car you want with the practicality of AWD.

Also a little side note : Holden's AWD system has been setup so even though it has 4 wheels driving the car it still feels like a RWD car, with I believe 60% of the power going to the rear wheels.

 

I say bring the Firebird back and give it AWD.

I don’t want to see a Camaro with AWD. I want to stress again the idea to keep Chevrolet the “value” company and make the Camaro the “value” sports car at GM. I don’t want to tack on a million special options on the Camaro. I don’t want it to be a slouch, but it doesn’t need every little bell and whistle to compete. Just a complete package. Leave cool higher priced performance options to Pontiac. Give AWD to the GTO if the Firebird doesn’t come back. They will all be on the same platform. But make sure the Camaro comes in at a decent price.

 

Pontiac G6- supercharged 3.5L V6 + AWD. It's going to be a killer

Although I think something more Supra like would be a better addition to the Pontiac lineup. TT I5/6 with optional AWD. That wouldn't be a clone of the GTO but would also be a performer. The supercharged 3.5L in the G6 is only putting out 285hp I think in concept form. I'd rather see a turbo 400hp I6 in some Pontiac (firebird!).

 

I agree with the statement that AWD doesn't belong on a Camaro.
Although maybe not possible, I think a good candidate for a Chevy AWD vehicle would be the Malibu Maxx.

 

guionM ... I want to have your baby ....


fine work as usual ....

 

Uhhhh......

You aren't going to believe me, but it's actually easier to get info on the new Camaro than it is about what's going to happen to Monte Carlo. No, I'm not kidding!

I haven't gotten anything beyond 2005 on the Monte Carlo. Could mean one of 3 things:
1. It's dead after 2005
2. It will continue after 2005 as a coupe version of GM's full size RWD cars, completely separate from Camaro ([i]Camaro, though based on the same components as GM's modular chassis, will still have a separate designation as an "F-Body" and won't be a "2 door Impala/Caprice")
3. It will be renamed. Could be Belair, could be Impala SS coupe, could be something else.

The AWD Monaro will cost just under $50,000 in US currency, making this roughly a $15,000 option. So I guess the AWD option would "rule" up in the Northeast..... ruled out of your budgets.

Let's be realistic here. It really snows about 2 months out of the year in the most snow-venerable places in the US. Anyone so insecure about the winter months in the northeast isn't going to spend 50 or even 40 grand for a AWD Camaro. They'll get a AWD SUV or crossover, and park their new Camaro in the garage.

As I've always pointed out from day 1:
A. RWD based AWD cars cost plenty of money.

B. RWD based AWD cars are plenty heavy (the AWD Monaro weighs 3972 lbs....a couple of shopping bags under 2 tons!).

C. Sales of RWD based AWD cars are very thin, either making it not worthwhile financially, or keeping it's appeal limited. BMW, & Mercedes both offer AWD on a number of cars. You'd expect these cars to burn up the charts in the northeast, but even there they're barely a blip.

D. Finally, just what we need is a bunch of morons & idiots with 400 horsepower and AWD feeling like they can defy physics. Some people just haven't yet equated that ice that makes 2wd spin out and 30 ton tractor-trailers jack knife on freeways & curves, also makes AWD (especially high powered ones) spin out and head for ditches, gardrails, and other drivers.

RWD based AWD will work with Cadillac and Buick. It's price, & customer base are ideal. It may even work with Pontiac. But Chevy?

I know some of you SAY you want a AWD Camaro. But I'd like to see how many actually show up with their wallets to pay Corvette prices for one.

 

Yeah 15 grand is a little pricey. Just the thought was cool I guess. Maybe if it was a 1/3 of that price I'd think about it and suffer the weight loss but then again maybe not. I've driven my Z through 2 Maine winters and will be driving it again this winter....its really not that bad in the snow if you get the proper tires. Thanks to the recent information you've provided I'm going to hold on to my car until the 5th Gens come out. I swore I'd never buy a new car but if this one is a homerun I'll be the 1st one on the block to have one.


Colin
98 Z28

 

How can every other manufactorer make AWD a $1900-$3000 option but on a Holden it is $15,000? I'm guessing more comes with the AWD Monaro vs. RWD Monaro than just AWD.

 

Amen...$15,000 on a car is completely asinine.

For $3k, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Guion...2 months? Come on now...come on out to MA if you think we only get snow 2 months outta the year...seriously...

Mid November until April is all fair game out here. May not be common all that time, but it happens. And when it does? You do NOT want to have a 4th gen in it...