Large SUVs lose luster, cost Big 3
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Re: Large SUVs lose luster, cost Big 3
But both companies are making plans to build big SUVs that share underbodies with steady-selling full-size trucks. That gives them the ability to shift production to trucks if the large SUV market should weaken further.
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Re: Large SUVs lose luster, cost Big 3
Originally Posted by guionM
If you have a decent sized family, do alot of camping, or live in rural areas I can see needing a Suburban or Tahoe. But I don't see any reason for anyone needing anything bigger than an Explorer or Trailblazer for daily use.:
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I dunno where theyre losing thier luster but it definatly isn't in orlando florida. Last night at work (i work at publix, a grocery store) it was just about all you see in the parking lot. Personally I think theyre gay and hardly anyone that has them needs them or uses them for thier purpose.
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exactly.. luxury is all about excess.. more than you need.
so for some people, its about nice interiors, hi tech gizmo's, bank vault silence.
for other, its simply sheer size.... more room than you ever need, and safety at the expense of thers.
an finally for a lot of us.. HP, accel and speed.. we want to go fast, and accel quickly..
So right now, big SUV's are taking the brunt of the blame, since everyone has them, and they are highly visible.
If they go down, muscle and sports cars are going to be next highly visible target.. you don't _need_ that huge V8.. you can get better gas milage, and more interior room with a Civic.
Next, although stretching, would be your lux cars.. all that fancy equipment, sound deadners, takes up weight, which robs mpg..
then we'll all be driving bare eco boxes.. if not forced into public trans.
so for some people, its about nice interiors, hi tech gizmo's, bank vault silence.
for other, its simply sheer size.... more room than you ever need, and safety at the expense of thers.
an finally for a lot of us.. HP, accel and speed.. we want to go fast, and accel quickly..
So right now, big SUV's are taking the brunt of the blame, since everyone has them, and they are highly visible.
If they go down, muscle and sports cars are going to be next highly visible target.. you don't _need_ that huge V8.. you can get better gas milage, and more interior room with a Civic.
Next, although stretching, would be your lux cars.. all that fancy equipment, sound deadners, takes up weight, which robs mpg..
then we'll all be driving bare eco boxes.. if not forced into public trans.
Originally Posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
I'm thinking the Big 3 saw this coming a while ago, thus the shift to smaller SUV's and car products. I for one am looking forward to being able to see over and around more vehicles as I'm driving down the road! 
On the down side...the lower popularity of SUV's will have safety and environmental groups shifting their focus to the "evils" of performance cars and larger V8 engines. One thing I can say for sure is that SUV's took some of the pressure off of cars like F-bodies and Mustangs.
On the down side...the lower popularity of SUV's will have safety and environmental groups shifting their focus to the "evils" of performance cars and larger V8 engines. One thing I can say for sure is that SUV's took some of the pressure off of cars like F-bodies and Mustangs.
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Originally Posted by kefkafloyd
Er, hasn't this been how the Tahoe and Suburban have been built for years?
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there are some differences though.. GM SUV's use coil springs instead of leafs out back..
Originally Posted by Z28x
Since 1935 to be exact. Suburban is the longest running name plate in the auto world. All full size SUVs are is a truck with a huge cab and no bed, or at least that is how it used to be.
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Originally Posted by Ken S
there are some differences though.. GM SUV's use coil springs instead of leafs out back..
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more interior junk standard V8.. actually, a comparable truck is pretty close up there..
both trucks and SUV's are extremely high margin anyways... they price them that high cause they can sell em that high.
both trucks and SUV's are extremely high margin anyways... they price them that high cause they can sell em that high.
Originally Posted by kefkafloyd
Yes, but this would explain part of the Suburban's higher cost. Those coil springs are also an option on the Z71 4x4 package for GM trucks are they not?
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Re: Large SUVs lose luster, cost Big 3
Originally Posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
On the down side...the lower popularity of SUV's will have safety and environmental groups shifting their focus to the "evils" of performance cars and larger V8 engines. One thing I can say for sure is that SUV's took some of the pressure off of cars like F-bodies and Mustangs.
Just wait, all of the pansy treehuggers will now aim hardcore for the 300C, Magnum R/T, GTO, Mustang, Charger, and the new Impalas with the 5.3s
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Re: Large SUVs lose luster, cost Big 3
Originally Posted by Ken S
more interior junk standard V8.. actually, a comparable truck is pretty close up there..
both trucks and SUV's are extremely high margin anyways... they price them that high cause they can sell em that high.
both trucks and SUV's are extremely high margin anyways... they price them that high cause they can sell em that high.
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