well the altima is probably a class below the GTP
but the maxima costs about the same and it's arguably a much better car in alot of respects

 

Maxima cost are not even close to the Grand Prix

base Maxima $29,440
loaded Maxima $34,790

base Grand Prix $21,760
loaded Grand Prix $29,305

both cars are 2004's, prices are from cars.com

 

Another demonstration of how illusion sometimes wins over reality??

 

The Altima is (finally) a pretty well focused "Camry/Accord-class" competitor. The Maxima is kind of a question mark, but it undeniably is above the Grand Prix in pricing and market focus. If you think of the Maxima as more of an Infiniti I35 these days, you probably have the right idea.

Where does that leave the Grand Prix? My best guess is somewhere in what's left of the traditional domestic market. "Mid-sized" these days is normally defined by the Japanese - something Ford is finally realizing with its Mazda-6 based Taurus replacement.

 

Dude I have seen so many chicks driving GTP's i dunno how i feel about them anymore...

 

But does the base GP come with the 260hp S/c 3.8? The base maxima has the same 265hp as the fully loaded one. That calls for the big price difference between the 2 base models.

I guess the price varies from site to site or something. Carpoint.com has the 2003 Maxima's price at $24,899 to 27,549 and the 2004's at $26,950 to $28,900.
http://autos.msn.com/vip/newoverview...ftNav&pos=Find

 

What the HELL is that supposed to mean? Who cares?!?!??! Around here, there's almost as many women driving F bods as men...does that mean I should "feel" differently about them? Gimme a break...

Back on topic, while I haven't had a new GTP in stock yet, I have driven a new GT2...damn, its a nice car

 

The base GTP is $26,495.

While I myself would want the 260HP GTP you must remember that not everyone is as performance oriented as us. Obviously there is a lot of people that prefer the 200HP 230tq V6 otherwise they wouldn't make it. Plus the base GT1 is about $4,000 cheaper than the base GTP, there are more people that shop by price rather than HP

 

Darth i was kinda wondering the same thing as you: what makes the new Maxima, Altima so "exciting"???

At least the new Grand Prix has some aggressivness to it. the slanted headlights and twin pontiac grills look bada$$ in my opinion and the body resembles more of a coupe than a sedan. plus the GTP is pretty quick as well.

I'm sorry but all i see in the Accord, Camry, Maxima, Altima, etc. are "grandma cars". yes they have decent powerplants but damn, they look so BORING. not saying the domestic sedans look any better but if i had the cash and the need for a 4 door, I would easily take the Grand Prix or CTS over those cars anyday.

Just my .02

 

You're assuming that your dealer is competent and knowledgeable. I can remember the same line about the 4th gens "we haven't moved a single one yet." You ever hear from Jason E in MA, though? He successfully sold like 1000 percent more than any of his competing dealers because he knew what he was doing.

my point is that the 04 GP won't suffer from one or two under-achiever dealers. It's destined to succeed regardless.

gt

 

I drove a GTP coupe in 2001 for a day, and it was blazingly quick over what I expected, and was all round, a nice car. Anyone drive the new one yet? How does it compare?

Not intersted in buying one, just curious.

 

both come with a stick.

 

Wow
j/k, actually that is nice, but those paddle shifters on the Grand Prix are tight!

 

Good grief! Cars must be alot more expensive everywhere else in the country! I've seen base Grand Prix's here for less than $20k.

 

The latest 2004 GP ad features a blind woman driving a GTP. Kudos for GM for marketing to visually impaired drivers.

I didn't think the Grand Prix looked that bad.