Just got back from the 2004 Auto Show and....
10-03-2003, 06:40 AM
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Just got back from the 2004 Auto Show and....
....apparently the Solstice got approved a week ago. I was speaking with the main pontiac rep. and she confirmed it. Of course I'm still skeptical but every little bit counts.
Other notes:
-SSR is a NICE ride. Unfortunately its also got a NICE $50K price tag.
-SS concept is one of the nicest looking performance cars Ive ever seen. Unfortunately, to build the exact concept is something like $90K.
-At first I didnt like the idea of the G6 but now that I've seen one they look pretty sharp.
-GTO is smaller in person then I was picturing. In between a grand am and a grand prix. Crying for better rims too.
-Why wasnt the Ford 49 put out instead of the T-Bird????
Other notes:
-SSR is a NICE ride. Unfortunately its also got a NICE $50K price tag.
-SS concept is one of the nicest looking performance cars Ive ever seen. Unfortunately, to build the exact concept is something like $90K.
-At first I didnt like the idea of the G6 but now that I've seen one they look pretty sharp.
-GTO is smaller in person then I was picturing. In between a grand am and a grand prix. Crying for better rims too.
-Why wasnt the Ford 49 put out instead of the T-Bird????
10-03-2003, 08:19 AM
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The Solstice will be a nice addition to Pontiac's lineup. I think the car will sell as long as its priced like a Pontiac, ie not over $30K.
$50K+ for an SSR was that the sticker? They were supposed to MSRP in the $42-44K range. Too hight in my book already. But $50K+ is way too much. Wonder if the dealer markup's have started!
I hear ya about the GTO. I bet Pontiac will have atleast a chrome rim option after the car is out.
$50K+ for an SSR was that the sticker? They were supposed to MSRP in the $42-44K range. Too hight in my book already. But $50K+ is way too much. Wonder if the dealer markup's have started!
I hear ya about the GTO. I bet Pontiac will have atleast a chrome rim option after the car is out.
10-03-2003, 09:26 AM
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Re: 2004??
Originally posted by jrp4uc
Well that's a lot of dated concepts for an auto show from the future.
Well that's a lot of dated concepts for an auto show from the future.
10-03-2003, 09:29 AM
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Re: Re: 2004??
Originally posted by USHotRod
Its San Antonio. We get sloppy...uh..thirds because Dallas and Houstons are going on the same time.
Its San Antonio. We get sloppy...uh..thirds because Dallas and Houstons are going on the same time.
10-03-2003, 09:50 AM
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Re: Re: 2004??
Originally posted by USHotRod
Its San Antonio. We get sloppy...uh..thirds because Dallas and Houstons are going on the same time.
Its San Antonio. We get sloppy...uh..thirds because Dallas and Houstons are going on the same time.
Needless to say, it's worth the trip to Detroit in January.
10-03-2003, 09:50 AM
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We in LA usually get "one-off" concept cars a year afterwards, so don't feel bad. You get to see the SS in person a year before the world famous Greater Los Angeles show! We usually get Chrysler and Lincoln debuts and one offs, as well as those from Asia.
You are yet another conversion to what I've been saying all along to everybody, GTO is NOT Monte Carlo sized, it Mustang sized. You comment about it being smaller than expected is becoming pretty standard fare with those as they actually get up close to one and see it. It's shorter and skinner than a Camaro.
I also like the SSR, but I think it would have been better if it's design was incorperated into GM's mid size trucks instead of being a $45,000+ limited edition, convertible hardtop truck. If the Colorado SS looked like a hardtop SSR and priced in the upper 20s, GM probally couldn't make enough of them.
You are yet another conversion to what I've been saying all along to everybody, GTO is NOT Monte Carlo sized, it Mustang sized. You comment about it being smaller than expected is becoming pretty standard fare with those as they actually get up close to one and see it. It's shorter and skinner than a Camaro.
I also like the SSR, but I think it would have been better if it's design was incorperated into GM's mid size trucks instead of being a $45,000+ limited edition, convertible hardtop truck. If the Colorado SS looked like a hardtop SSR and priced in the upper 20s, GM probally couldn't make enough of them.
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10-03-2003, 10:00 AM
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No complaints here with the selection of cars in Detroit with our NAIAS! 
guionM, I think the Monaro-GTO is the perfect size for a rwd 2dr sport coupe. I think the 4th gen F-cars size large overall size for a small interior size was one of the cars drawbacks. Its a little hard to sell a nice V6 Camaro to a girl that can't see over the dash and is intimidated by the seating position. Whare the Mustang, and Grand Am, are less intimidating and easier to drive for drivers who don't have all the concentration and skill to pilot the F-body around tight city driving.
guionM, I think the Monaro-GTO is the perfect size for a rwd 2dr sport coupe. I think the 4th gen F-cars size large overall size for a small interior size was one of the cars drawbacks. Its a little hard to sell a nice V6 Camaro to a girl that can't see over the dash and is intimidated by the seating position. Whare the Mustang, and Grand Am, are less intimidating and easier to drive for drivers who don't have all the concentration and skill to pilot the F-body around tight city driving.
10-03-2003, 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by guionM
We in LA usually get "one-off" concept cars a year afterwards, so don't feel bad. You get to see the SS in person a year before the world famous Greater Los Angeles show! We usually get Chrysler and Lincoln debuts and one offs, as well as those from Asia.
You are yet another conversion to what I've been saying all along to everybody, GTO is NOT Monte Carlo sized, it Mustang sized. You comment about it being smaller than expected is becoming pretty standard fare with those as they actually get up close to one and see it. It's shorter and skinner than a Camaro.
I also like the SSR, but I think it would have been better if it's design was incorperated into GM's mid size trucks instead of being a $45,000+ limited edition, convertible hardtop truck. If the Colorado SS looked like a hardtop SSR and priced in the upper 20s, GM probally couldn't make enough of them.
We in LA usually get "one-off" concept cars a year afterwards, so don't feel bad. You get to see the SS in person a year before the world famous Greater Los Angeles show! We usually get Chrysler and Lincoln debuts and one offs, as well as those from Asia.
You are yet another conversion to what I've been saying all along to everybody, GTO is NOT Monte Carlo sized, it Mustang sized. You comment about it being smaller than expected is becoming pretty standard fare with those as they actually get up close to one and see it. It's shorter and skinner than a Camaro.
I also like the SSR, but I think it would have been better if it's design was incorperated into GM's mid size trucks instead of being a $45,000+ limited edition, convertible hardtop truck. If the Colorado SS looked like a hardtop SSR and priced in the upper 20s, GM probally couldn't make enough of them.
The SSR suprised me with its size. Its not by any means a small car. Its not quite Pacifica sized but it lifted higher then any other car I know of. Now that Ive seen it, you could prbably get as much use out of its bed as a ranger or S-10. Not bad. If you got $50K burning a hole in your pocket.
10-03-2003, 12:35 PM
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In New Orleans we get a dealers show.
Whatever the dealers have on the lot, that's what is at the show?
Our autoshow used to be pretty cool. Now it's really crappy.
Their is usually a chrysler concept. None from ford or gm.
You guys in detroit,la,chicago, and ny don't know how good you have it.
Whatever the dealers have on the lot, that's what is at the show?
Our autoshow used to be pretty cool. Now it's really crappy.
Their is usually a chrysler concept. None from ford or gm.
You guys in detroit,la,chicago, and ny don't know how good you have it.
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