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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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January Canadian Sales Data

With this kind of news I guess we won't see GM Canada getting their pricing more aligned with U.S. pricing anytime soon.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...t=newsletter06
Canadian auto sales surge ahead in January

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Automotive News / February 2, 2006 - 11:00 am

TORONTO -- DaimlerChrysler, Ford Motor Co. and General Motors showed strong monthly sales growth in Canada, leaving behind their Japanese rivals, according to January figures released by the companies on Wednesday.

General Motors of Canada said it moved 22,947 cars and light trucks off its lots in January, up 9.1 percent from 21,024 in the same month last year.

GM's car sales were up 14.1 percent while trucks were up 4.4 percent

DaimlerChrysler Canada said sales of vehicles rose 10.7 percent to 16,405 units, from 14,816 in January last year. The automaker said car sales increased 17.8 percent while truck sales rose 8.4 percent.

Ford Motor Co. of Canada reported a 8.5 percent rise in combined sales for January as it sold 11,602 vehicles, compared with 10,693.

Car sales, led by the Fusion model launched last October, jumped 15.4 percent, while trucks were ahead 5.8 percent.

Toyota Canada Inc. said its January sales increased by 6.3 percent to 9,300 vehicles. The Japanese automaker, which has steadily been increasing its market share with a handful of popular new products, appeared upbeat that demand for its vehicles will continue.

"Our sales momentum will continue to grow as we introduce more innovative new vehicles, like the Yaris four-door and FJ Cruiser in the coming months," Toyota Canada Managing Director Tony Wearing said in a release.

January sales at Honda Canada Inc. rose 5 percent to 6,698 vehicles, helped largely by a 26 percent increase in sales of its new Civic model.

The Honda automobile division moved 5,796 vehicles off its lots, a gain of 5.9 percent, while sales at the company's Acura division slipped 0.6 percent to 902.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Yes, it seems that GM wants to charge us Canucks a $5000 premium (after exchange) to purchase a Sky. Strike that one off my list, I guess .

BS like this really pisses me off, enough that I'm going to start looking outside the GM family for the first time ever.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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BS like this really pisses me off, enough that I'm going to start looking outside the GM family for the first time ever.
Have you checked how the pricing stacks up elsewhere? I haven't, but one of the replies I got when objecting the the $10K+ spread on the Trailblazer SS is that it's the same as the Jeep Grank Cherokee.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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I didn't realize there was such a price premium on GM cars in Canada...........
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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I didn't realize there was such a price premium on GM cars in Canada...........
Economy cars are on par, or sometimes even cheaper here. As one moves up the luxury/sport scale the spread gets bigger and bigger. A trip to the respective "build your own" sites will demonstrate that.

Parts pricing verges on the outrageous at times too.

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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by R377
Yes, it seems that GM wants to charge us Canucks a $5000 premium (after exchange) to purchase a Sky. Strike that one off my list, I guess .

BS like this really pisses me off, enough that I'm going to start looking outside the GM family for the first time ever.
You think that is bad enough? What about Corvette C6? How about paying a 13K premium!

Base price is $45K USD. Base price in Canada is $67 CDN. If you take $45 USD and multiply it by 1.2 (exchange rate) you arrive at $54. If THAT was the car's MSRP here, they would be a lot more accessible.

The problem is, I think, is that they will still sell all Corvettes in Canada for $69K that they plan on selling in this country.

edit: some comparisons on Z06 - $65K USD. Convert to CDN = $78K CDN. Price in Canada? $89K. Why the $11K overhead?

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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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If you take $45 USD and multiply it by 1.2 (exchange rate) you arrive at $54.
And the exchange rate is under 1.15 now.
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You think that is bad enough? What about Corvette C6? How about paying a 13K premium!

Base price is $45K USD. Base price in Canada is $67 CDN. If you take $45 USD and multiply it by 1.2 (exchange rate) you arrive at $54. If THAT was the car's MSRP here, they would be a lot more accessible.

The problem is, I think, is that they will still sell all Corvettes in Canada for $69K that they plan on selling in this country.

edit: some comparisons on Z06 - $65K USD. Convert to CDN = $78K CDN. Price in Canada? $89K. Why the $11K overhead?
maybe thats why GM is more profitable every else besides USA...
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Originally Posted by R377
Yes, it seems that GM wants to charge us Canucks a $5000 premium (after exchange) to purchase a Sky. Strike that one off my list, I guess .

BS like this really pisses me off, enough that I'm going to start looking outside the GM family for the first time ever.

If it makes you feel any better (though I doubt it) us Aussies really get bent over... we pay around 3 times the prices after the $$$ conversion is factored in. For instance, a Porsche might cost $70K USD but we Aussies pay $230K AUD... in other words we should only part with $100K not $230K! Go figure!

AUD= 0.75 USD
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If it makes you feel any better (though I doubt it) us Aussies really get bent over... we pay around 3 times the prices after the $$$ conversion is factored in. For instance, a Porsche might cost $70K USD but we Aussies pay $230K AUD... in other words we should only part with $100K not $230K! Go figure!

AUD= 0.75 USD
How about how badly you guys were screwed on your OWN Monaro? Heck I think they GTO with all the upgrades was like $15K cheaper than the Monaro, and it doesn't have to be shipped around the world!
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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You think that is bad enough? What about Corvette C6? How about paying a 13K premium!
Yeah, that seems to be true for any car out out of the mainstream. I remember looking at C5s before I bought my current car and there was a pretty healthy spread. But at that time the loonie was in the low-70s so I didn't think as much about it.

I understand the dollar is likely going to depreciate over time so they have to price their cars with an eye towards long-term rates. I just think that $5k on a Sky is over the top, and it's going to turn off people who were on the fence about buying one. Me, for example.
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
How about how badly you guys were screwed on your OWN Monaro? Heck I think they GTO with all the upgrades was like $15K cheaper than the Monaro, and it doesn't have to be shipped around the world!
Good point.

I have been told by people more knowledgeable than myself that your GTO is decontented... like we run 18" wheels and we have more in the way of interior appointments. However, the fact that our US buddies have an LS2 and we make do with the LS1 although 'we' invented the car... no fair! That's why we buy these vehicles, it's for their engines!!!

Ah well, we get a GenIV 6.0L L76 in mainstream Holdens this model year... it should be a good engine... even though the edit tools are still some way off!
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it seems that for the canucks here, it would be cheaper to go stateside to buy the car and drive it back or even have it delivered. An airplane ticket + gas money for the return can't be more than $1k US.
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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it seems that for the canucks here, it would be cheaper to go stateside to buy the car and drive it back or even have it delivered. An airplane ticket + gas money for the return can't be more than $1k US.
You also have to do some minor mods and paperwork. But still, it would be well worth it. Now that I'm almost permanently stationed in Detroit, I could probably even licence it there and avoid importing it altogether
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Originally Posted by morb|d
it seems that for the canucks here, it would be cheaper to go stateside to buy the car and drive it back or even have it delivered. An airplane ticket + gas money for the return can't be more than $1k US.
Dealers can't sell new to Canadians so you can't lease and you can't GMAC finance. Warranty is also a bit of a concern. But yeah, I bought my Trailblazer SS used stateside.



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