uluz28

...will it be intercooled? God, please say yes

newby

I'd rather have a intercooled TURBO Solstice, but that's just me

uluz28

Agreed! I just recall information that had been posted that if it were to get forced induction, it would be SC'd.

Sixer-Bird

I'd imagine that the GXP Solstice will share the 2.0L supercharged four from the Ion Red Line. I wish they would use the 2.0L turbo from Saab though. It'd be nice to have some diversity in the GM stable.

BTW, does anyone know if the Ion Red Line is intercooled? I couldn't find anything that said it was.

slt

Amen. It would make huge waves in the tuner market. Stock 250hp 2.2l turbo with the potential to make a reliable, daily drivable 350hp with minor mods. If the CTS diff can handle 400hp in the V and GM puts a good transmission on it as well.......

Magnum Force

another vote for turbo...I'm starting to get interested in the solstice, but i'm not liking that front end

guionM

Saturn Ion has a supercharged & intercooled engine, so it's safe to say Solstice will as well.

http://www.saturn.com/saturn/showroo...nav=270&page=1

slt

IMHO, thats a bad move by GM.

Z28Wilson

GM hasn't been interested in turbos since the late 80's. Apparently, according to RP, GM's "market research" dictates that Americans hate turbo lag and want the instant mash-the-gas-and-go feel that a supercharger provides. I happen to disagree with this research (after all, market research numbers only reflect the small group you talk to) and there's no question that turbos are the glamour power adder today. I'd love to see turbos used on GM 4 cylinders (where it won't rob power to make power) and leave the blowers to the larger 6's (and 8's )

Magnum Force

RP told me the exact same thing a year ago...still, i was hoping things could change (maybe 'update' the market research?)

Sixer-Bird

Someone needs to tell Dodge that Americans would rather the SRT-4 be supercharged...

I think there is a place in GM's verious 4 cylinder performance cars for supercharging and turbocharging. Imagine what the 2.4L 170hp Ecotec could do with a turbo. With the torque it makes N/A, lag wouldn't be much of an issue.

gab

on one of the car channels, they showed the Porsche GT2 with 2 turbos to overcome turbo-lag. The turbos were smaller in capacity to if they had deployed the vehicle with a single Turbo. One Turbo comes in at lower rpms and the other after.

maybe a moot point since the cost may be too much for a vehicle like the Solstice that needs to stay at the $20K mark.

slt

Modern turbos like Mitsubishi's twin scroll and Garretts new disco potato have minimal lag with the ability to support 300-350hp, kiss principle in effect.

People like off the line torque for stop light commuting(think Malibu)

People like mid and upper range power for sporty/track driving(think Solstice)

newby

Yah, there are many ways to combat turbo lag. The old FC RX7 cars originally had a twin-scroll system on the turbo models to improve low-end, and I know there's many other "tricks" that aren't too complicated that help.

I think that tuners and younger (think 20s) buyers would prefer a turbo, myself included. True, the instant power of a supercharger is cool, but the feeling of the turbo boosting is pretty dang fun too as it pushes you farther and farther back into the seat.

Also, good point on the SRT-4. Those things are selling like crazy from what I hear.

morb|d

the thing with the turbos is, there isn't a cheap way to get more power out of them once they're on the engine. with a S/C all you have to do is a pully swap to eek out some extra power. that's what, $5? $10?

or maybe i don't know enough about turbos, so somebody can clue me in.