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Nov 28, 2002 | 09:40 AM

#46

FilledWithFurySS

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The production camaros price will never raise alot because they are a dime a dozen...

Whera's the GN's really werent that massly produced...

So our cars are just gonna depreciate

~Mike

Nov 28, 2002 | 10:31 AM

#47

WERM

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Originally posted by BigDarknFast
WERM - I do agree it's a stretch to call the current MC an SS with only 205 hp. However I think it's also a reach to declare it 'completely unworthy' of an SS designation. Car & Drivel recently clocked a MC SS at 8.6 sec for 0-60. By comparison, according to your yardstick, the 1967 Impala SS 427 (0-60 8.4s), the 1970 Chevelle SS 396 (0-60 8.1s), the 1966 Nova SS 327 (0-60 8.6s), the 1968 Nova SS 327 (0-60 8.7s) and the 1971 Nova SS 350 (0-60 8.5s) are also unworthy. Even the most potent MC SS made, the 1970 MC SS 454, had 0-60 of 7.7. Shall I see how many Fords are not really "GT's" by that yardstick?

Performance has come a long way since 1967. Those cars were real performers in their day. The MC SS is not any faster than any other FWD blandmobile. Pretty much ANY respectable car can do 0-60 in 8.6 seconds these days. You have to look at the context. If I just look at your numbers, I could make an argument that a 0-60 in 7.5 second Toyota Celica GTS is a "true muscle car". Well, it's not. Why? Because it is slow compared to the performance cars of its time.

Other than some weirdo styling creases and an SS badge, there is nothing wrong with the Monte Carlo. It is not a performance car, and as such tarnishes what little cache is left in the two letters - "SS".

Nov 29, 2002 | 11:31 PM

#48

BigDarknFast

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Performance has come a long way since 1967. Those cars were real performers in their day.

You're kidding right? Those cars were quite lame compared to many other muscle cars of their day. I don't have my stats handy... but I recall some real screamers available back in the pre-smog years. Mustangs with 428's... COPO Camaros... Hemi Cudas... any of them ring a bell in your rusty memory banks? I stand by my statement... according to your definition, many original Chevrolet SS cars did not and do not deserve the badge, because of your huffy standards for the nameplate.

This argument will soon be moot anyway, when the MC SS gets more power