Let's play Devil's advocate and say the Camaro and Firebird never come back.

Will that be such a bad thing?

Think about it for a second.

Did you guys notice what happened to the Grand National when they ceased production?

Their value went up because of their rarity.

I kind of like the idea of driving a car thats rare or no longer in production. Isn't that part of the attraction of buying an older car?

The GTO and other GM offerings will always be there to spank the Mustang.

And the Camaro can always be the classic musclecar of the 90s.

p.s. I know the Camaro is coming back.

 

Don't count on Camaro value going up similar to a Grand National...

There are tons of Camaros aout there, and Grand Nationals were relatively rare...

 

I think GM should bring back an affordable V8 RWD powered sportscar, but I dont think they should call it the Camaro. That time has passed. Just like if Buick ever comes out with another Turbocharged car, I hope to God they dont call it a Grand National. Or if GMC ever decides to bring back a turbocharged AWD truck/SUV, they better not call them Sy/Tys. Those nameplates are gone, and personally, I'd rather remember for what they were, then have GM bring them back and f*ck them all up.

 

Ya, but you are assuming they'd come back as something other than what they are supposed to be... which, if that is the case, I agree... but if they are true to their nameplate, the use of the names, IMO, is fine, and actually a smart move in most cases.

 

I could care less about classic car value. Don't tell me you're one of those who'd buy a classic just to let it sit in the garage. My old neighbor had a Chevelle in mint condition which NEVER saw the light of day...such a shame. What's the point of owning it?

Chevrolet needs a 2+2 RWD coupe with a V8 option and it needs to be called Camaro.

 

I hate to rain on anyone's parade that thinks these cars are going to go up in value. I certainly wouldn't buy one as an investment in this sense. As mentioned, cars like the Impala SS, Grand National, etc are significantly more limited in production.

I'd think it would be great to see nameplates like that return (assuming they are true to their heritage). Just like having a modern Camaro would be cool. If it was a "stop so you don't mess up something great" mentality, we wouldn't have a second generation Corvette, Camaro, or any other successful nameplate. But I do think it's nice to come out with something new and allow a car to make its own history once in a while.

 

The name "Camaro" should die if the replacement isn't true to the F-body concept. I would say that the second generation of 1970 started the lineage of performance cars that lead to the F4. Any Mustang clone, or even a Gen. 1 inspired model, wouldn't be a Camaro, just a sad debasement.

It would be far better to put the name permanently to rest rather than to attach it to compromised monstrosity.

The current Monte Carlo should pretty much prove this point. While the 1984-1988 Monte Carlo SS is still modern and covetable, the current boat merely attaches bad taste '70s styling cues to a mediocre sedan chassis.

The "GTO" name is something different, the moniker having been attached to various models of the Tempest, LeMans, and Ventora. Considering that this nameplate was exhumed after three decades, and was applied to option packages as much as coherent models, an Australian GTO doesn't diminish the name.

We can take it for granted that the Camaro will return, name intact, as a more conventional RWD coupe. Somehow I doubt that an Gen.5 will eclipse the F4.

 

While I would perfer the current Monte Carlo to be RWD, this statement is so incredibly short-sighted, I don't know where to begin.

 

I've learned that most stuff redzed says is like that.

 

You're kidding, right?

 

Except for the fact the Monte is FWD I love that car. Monte Carlo SS are some of the best styled cars in GM's line up. Especially when they are black. If the general could rework that car and cram and LS1 and RWD in it, it would sell even more. Your crazy man if you don’t like it.

 

Preach it brother, preach it!!

 

Yea, it would probably sell because right now because it would be the only affordable, RWD car that GM sells.

To be honest, I really don't like the styling of the current Monte Carlo. It's like it's trying to hard or something. I can't really explain it. It's one of the few cars that look better in pictures than in person, to me anyway.

On another point about the Monte Carlo, I know that the 2003 Winston Cup Monte Carlo is going to be another body style, is the production model changing? I haven't heard, nor have I really looked.

Here is a pic!

 

And I want it by 06 at the latest!!!

 

The G-body Monte Carlo SS was a fairly mild machine, but even with a 180hp L69 it was, and is, a far more desirable car than the current model. If you ask me, these cars are future classics. Take into account the monochromatic paint, decent handling and t-tops. The Monte Carlo SS WAS a beautiful machine - only the Trans Am GTA was a better looking car back in the 1980's.

Today's Monte Carlo "SS" just doesn't compare. Somehow GM was able to recapture the bulk and fender creases of the old MCs - without the charm. How can a modern car be so incredibly fussy and prudish? Sure, the 3800 Buick V6 is as wholesome as a glass of milk, but is it "SS" worthy? You've got to be kidding. At least the soon-to-be-discontinued Grand Prix coupe had supercharged credibility and smoothly coherent styling. Did I mention that the Toyota Solara, Accord, Sebring and Stratus are all better choices in the FWD coupe market? So what if the MC racks up more sales in the fleet market.

As far as I'm concerned, the "real" Monte Carlo SS passed away in 1988. The moniker should never have come back on the innocuous 1995 "Lumina" coupe, and shouldn't have been used again in 2000. Even IF the future Monte Carlo returns to RWD, the mystique is gone forever.