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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

Originally Posted by 3rdGenNut
10 - 15 hp doesnt count, it needs cubes!!
I agree.

They want to be a contender, it will be close.
As long as they can keep the price down. I don't know what kind of engine Hyundai plans on using, but making it overly complicated and costly (much like the modular 4.6) is going to lead to prohibitive hp levels.

Thats the kind of thinking that got GM to where it is today, and part of the reason Camaro is D.E.D.(phenetics )
I would love to see a 400hp base model, probably more than almost anyone else on this board. I still don't think it is going to happen, unless Ford really bumps there hp levels up.

DCX will make the SRT/8 the leader or they wont make it. I'm talkin' entry level.
I am talking entry level too. I still think anything GM throws out, DCX can do too. They have a great platform to build the Challenger on as far as price for components go, and their engines are cheap to build and easy to get HP out of.


Here is my take on what we might see for entry level.

Mustang: 320-330 Hp
Tibby (or whatever it ends up being): probably around Mustang levels, as I am sure the Mustang will be benchmark for it, due to the Mustangs popularity.

Camaro: 355 initially, maybe a slight bump afterward.
Challenger: around 350 as well, maybe alittle more.

I think as far as entry level pony cars go, the dead heat will be between the Challenger and the Camaro.
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

Originally Posted by RussStang
I agree.


As long as they can keep the price down. I don't know what kind of engine Hyundai plans on using, but making it overly complicated and costly (much like the modular 4.6) is going to lead to prohibitive hp levels.


I would love to see a 400hp base model, probably more than almost anyone else on this board. I still don't think it is going to happen, unless Ford really bumps there hp levels up.


I am talking entry level too. I still think anything GM throws out, DCX can do too. They have a great platform to build the Challenger on as far as price for components go, and their engines are cheap to build and easy to get HP out of.


Here is my take on what we might see for entry level.

Mustang: 320-330 Hp
Tibby (or whatever it ends up being): probably around Mustang levels, as I am sure the Mustang will be benchmark for it, due to the Mustangs popularity.

Camaro: 355 initially, maybe a slight bump afterward.
Challenger: around 350 as well, maybe alittle more.

I think as far as entry level pony cars go, the dead heat will be between the Challenger and the Camaro.
The aftermarket is making more power with Fords modular motors than the gen III/IV so far.
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

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The aftermarket is making more power with Fords modular motors than the gen III/IV so far.
Better let the aftermarket build Ford's motors for them then, because they aren't bringing the goods in NA factory trim.
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Who said it had to be n/a? Buyers dont care. Power is power. The Ford GT is a badd *** car even with the s/c on it. MB's AMG division better stop using S/Cs and turbos on some of the offerings thay have. THEY MAKE motors of less than 7L with a power ader making more than the rumored 600hp blown LS7.

GM has let the aftermarket build some of there more notable motors. GM had mercury marine build there LT5 and the Sy/Ty motors were farmed out as well.

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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

Originally Posted by 3rdGenNut
So here how I see this shaking out.
Mustang 300 hp 26k (are they nuts)
Hundai pony 350 hp 23k (youll need the waranty)
Challenger 350 hp 28k (always overpriced)
Camaro 400 hp 25k (hopefully)
Hands down, everybody buys a Camaro.
Forget a new 400 hp anything for 25K. And as far as the Hyundai RWD coupe, there is no indication that it will have that much power. However, the upcoming '07 Hyundai RWD luxury sedan will have an available V8. This architecture is what the RWD Tiburon will be loosely based on.
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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i agree with Z284ever on power levels. everyone is probably gonna stay close to each other on their entry level models. the thing i'm most curious about is how special editions will play into the fold. what if Hyundai can do a 375-400hp SE under $30K??? that would definetley give them a little edge on the domestics. Hyundai sees an opportunity to get in on the Mustangs success, but are they as commited to the pony car formula as the domestics are?
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

Here's some more on Hyundai's '07 RWD sedan.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106903
Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

And here's another look at the HCD-8 concept, which is said to be a tease of the next gen RWD Tiburon.

http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...6/page044.html

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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

Originally Posted by Z284ever
And here's another look at the HCD-8 concept, which is said to be a tease of the next gen RWD Tiburon.

http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...6/page044.html
wow a hatchback, what a nifty idea.
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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wow a hatchback, what a nifty idea.

The "three door" body has already been publicly confirmed by Hyundai officials.
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
The "three door" body has already been publicly confirmed by Hyundai officials.
now all they have to do is put a V8 in it.
Old Aug 27, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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am i crazy, or are those actually really nice interiors for a hyundai???
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

Originally Posted by Darth Xed
It's still very hard to take Hyundai (or Kia) as a serious threat in this segment, no matter what the car is like.

Hyundai and Kia are not exactly drooled over brands from muscle car fans, and even the import crowd really doesn't get into either brand.

We'll see how it goes, I guess... but, right or wrong, I'm not all that concerned about it.... and I don't care about it at all as far as considering one for myself.
im not going to lie i will consider it when i go to buy my next car
the cars i will most likely consider:
year car
08-09 camaro*new*
09-10 trans am*i wish*
08/-09 challenger*if available*
08-09 hcd8*new*
06-07 shelby cobra*used 06 or so*
04*z06*-05c6* corvette*used*

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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

Originally Posted by Z284ever
And here's another look at the HCD-8 concept, which is said to be a tease of the next gen RWD Tiburon.

http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...6/page044.html

I'd buy it.
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Re: Hyundai prepared to enter "ponycar" market under two brands.

Originally Posted by Z284ever
And here's another look at the HCD-8 concept, which is said to be a tease of the next gen RWD Tiburon.

http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...6/page044.html


That thing looks like a rejected 350Z concept.



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