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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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The only part that even hints at it being a BMW would be the ugly headlights. Those are unmistakably BMW.
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Eh, looks better than the Z4.
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CLEAN
Art and Science baby!
Best post in thread.
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:52 AM
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That looks like the "Downtown Bagdad Edition" X6.
Where is the .50 cal? Tow missles?
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by IMPALA64
Two door sedan:
http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/5a/84/66_3.JPG


Two door coupe:
http://i20.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/3c/4c/e8_3.JPG


Sedans can have two doors. There used to be a difference, not really that way now.
Thanks for saving me the time of digging up examples.

As stated previously, the number of doors has nothing to do with "sedan" and "coupe".

The first generation Aurora was technically a 4-door coupe.

Moronic automotive writers are to blame for the current confusion by which most folks think a 2-door is always a coupe and a 4-door is always a sedan.
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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I would like to point out that a 2 door sedan can look very nice, the last gen 3 series coupe is a perfect example.

Would the Mustang be considered a coupe or sedan? It does have some dew parts and that was a sedan platform. I am not arguing either way but would like to understand the definition of the terms better.

I heard that 2 door sedans had enclosed rear windows, last few gen mustangs and 1st gen fbods. But coupes had no rear window, 2-4 fbods.
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Au contraire!

While there are any number of examples of 2-door sedans, including the BMW 3 series two door models, there is no such thing as a 4-door coupe, except in the mind of some jerkoff MB product planner. You can have sleek rooflines on 4 door sedans, but the term coupe, in reality, refers to a 2 or 3 passenger vehicle with no rear seat and close-coupled rear-axle. The examples shown actually illustrated the difference between a 2-dr sedan and a 2-dr hardtop. This coupe definition is stretched to include 2+2 configurations, and I can buy that, but this nonsense that MB is foisting on the gullible public is too much. This is actually why a BMW 6 series is a coupe (and labeled an even number series), but the two door 3 series is still a 3 (I know, someone will point out that they were going to start calling them 4 series, but at last count, I believe that plan was scrapped). At least that is why they've been that way until now.

IMO, and that is all it is, but I'm usually pretty right about this sort of thing, coupes (real coupes, not 4-door sedans with chopped roofs) will be the next big thing. As gas prices climb and the baby boomers kids move away, they are starting to make a lot of sense. They always were the best looking body styles, but were somewhat impractical for a family. Just wait!

Doug


Originally Posted by PacerX
Thanks for saving me the time of digging up examples.

As stated previously, the number of doors has nothing to do with "sedan" and "coupe".

The first generation Aurora was technically a 4-door coupe.

Moronic automotive writers are to blame for the current confusion by which most folks think a 2-door is always a coupe and a 4-door is always a sedan.
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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I'd like to see an auto maker try to do this body style, the four door hardtop/sport sedan.

http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53218406-Large.jpg

http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53218737-Large.jpg
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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Re: How stupid is TCC for buying this spy pic?

Originally Posted by IMPALA64
I'd like to see an auto maker try to do this body style, the four door hardtop/sport sedan.

http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53218406-Large.jpg

http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53218737-Large.jpg
Side impact standards killed that possibility deader than a doornail.

Pssst...

Yes...

You can have a 4 door coupe...
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Re: How stupid is TCC for buying this spy pic?

I really dont know much about the subject, but here's what Merriam-Webster and Oxford English Dictionary say:


coupé
/koopay/ (also coupe /koop/)

• noun a car with a fixed roof, two doors, and a sloping rear.

— ORIGIN originally denoting an enclosed carriage for two passengers and a driver: from French carrosse coupé ‘cut carriage’.
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2 usually coupe : a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat -- compare SEDAN
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Re: How stupid is TCC for buying this spy pic?

This came up before the Charger entered production, and I think I posted the definition of coupe for everybody. As stated, a coupe must have 2 doors but a sedan may have 2 or 4. The end.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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Re: How stupid is TCC for buying this spy pic?

Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
This came up before the Charger entered production, and I think I posted the definition of coupe for everybody. As stated, a coupe must have 2 doors but a sedan may have 2 or 4. The end.
He's right Coupe or Sedan is actually a measure of interior volume and not the number of doors. The Monte Carlo is actually a 2 door sedan.
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