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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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Here ya go! The Ste Therese plant demolition!

Here's a photo of the former F-body plant being taken down.

Though the CAW itself is unofficially indifferent (GM has actually increased employment overall since closing the plant down), it was Quebec's ONLY automotive assembly plant, and the locals aren't overly happy about it.

However, I am.

http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Nor...photo42296.htm
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Pardon my ignorance, but wtf does this mean? I thought that the CAW and Ste.T has rights to the C/F? If they take down the plant, what does this do to the whole C/F name? Im still very cloudy about it all. Will they still have the rights?
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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The plant and those that work there won the mandate (back in 1987) to produce the Camaro and Firebird at that plant back in 1987, to start in 1992. This came about due tono small part to a 30 year $300,000,000 loan by contributed by the Quebec and Canadian government, a $100,000,000 tax break, and a series of agreements between GM and CAW local 1163.

The way the agreement was written, GM was comitted to produce F-bodies at that factory till 2001, and could only stop production at that plant only if the models were discontinued. Even then, GM had to promise either pensions or reemployment to all employees at that plant.

Plant stands, GM can be compelled to make Camaros and Firebirds there.

Plant sold or demolished, GM has flexibility (CAW permitting) to use the Camaro & Firebird name at another plant without being raked over the coals come negotiating time.

That's the whole thing in a nutshell.
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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After it's gone, they can hire the CAW to build a Golf course there.
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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After it's gone, they can hire the CAW to build a Golf course there.
It's not the CAW itself (they gained more jobs at the Oshawa plant alone than they lost at Ste Therese). It's the local union that can stir things up, putting the Quebec government and the CAW leadership on the spot.

That's why the big hush-hush on the "C" word.

With the plant gone, it seems thay can say the "C" word without walking on eggshells.

BTW, FWIW: I think it's very interesting that Bob Lutz said in a skillful way that Camaro wasn't coming back because "a deal's a deal", as if to smooth concerns about the plant coming down (GM had to agree they wouldn't tear it down for a year after F-body production stopped, and afterwards, demolition had been blocked twice).

But that "Deal" was with the Ste. Therese plant, NOT the CAW itself.
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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so now that Ste.T is gone, Lutz can go "CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO CAMARO" and not have to worry about it?
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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It's probally a little more than that, but you got the idea.
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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Could we pick up our sledge hammers and caravan up there to help? If it's the Camaro's future we're talking about I'll work for free!
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Could we pick up our sledge hammers and caravan up there to help? If it's the Camaro's future we're talking about I'll work for free!
Ya, really... this is Camaro Land's equivilant of tearing down the Berlin Wall.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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whos betting the first word we hear of a new Camaro comes this fall???



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