Go back and read what you wrote. Better yet, I'll quote it here: "I almost always floor it when the light turns green (otherwise why did I buy a 4th gen)."

Now you are saying "in the middle of the night with no one on the road." This leads to one of two conclusions. Either...

a) You almost always drive in the middle of the night with no one on the road. Or...

b) You're Exaggerating greatly (I'm being nice) to try to make a point.

Reading comprehension is your friend. Let me to take you back to what YOU said: "Most people want to know that they can and occasionally flex their muscle to beat the person next to them... "

Golly Wally, I don't know, but flexing your muscle to "beat the person next to them" sure sounds like a race to me.

Also sounds like stupidity on both participants part, but I digress.

 

Street Racing would drop significantly if there were more tracks. This is only going to make things far worse here in California....

 

Go back and read what you wrote. Better yet, I'll quote it here: "I almost always floor it when the light turns green (otherwise why did I buy a 4th gen)."

Exactly, although you might not live life the way I do, I'm pretty damn consistent about everything I do in life. Light turns green, I almost always nail it, who's beside me (or not) doesn't affect what I do.

Reading comprehension is your friend. Let me to take you back to what YOU said: "Most people want to know that they can and occasionally flex their muscle to beat the person next to them... "

Thanks for the insult. Want to compare education levels? Anyways, I'm not sure whether what I said was clear or not, nevertheless I wasn't talking about what I feel/think/or do, rather why most people buy fast cars. "Most people" doesn't refer to me.

Back to topic: based upon what you and other's have said, unless you do legal racing there's absolutely no point/reason to have a fast car because all you're doing is tempting others to race you. So, the government needs to set a limit on power, what threshold are you proposing?

 

OH don't mind Bob, he's just here for our amusement. He'll go all day with you on grammer, sentence structure, if, and ands.Very meticulous, doesn't like it when people voice their opinions that he deems stupid. Just post something technical, you can back up and he'll leave you alone. He makes me laugh to hard to debate with him anything at all.

 

ROFLOL. With a testimonial like that, how could I not reply to dnovotny?

BTW... I rarely harp on grammer (sic) or spelling...unless it is REALLY bad....cause I make mistakes too.

My point went right over your head. If you care, the point was that you contridicted yourself, and/or exaggerated greatly. But whatever floats your boat.

Well I suppose you're welcome, however, my comment was pretty weak as an insult.

If it will make you feel better, sure. I have a HS diploma, and am *almost* finished with my BA (I'll turn 40 before that happens). Guess I'm purty smert, eh?

Uh, what was the point of comparing education levels again?

Your right, you weren't clear (at least from my perspective).

Disagree. I have a fast car (don't have a clue if it is faster than yours or not), yet I manage to enjoy the hell out of it - even when I'm not engaging in legalized racing. I will state once again: I think the punishment does not fit the crime, but I think street racing (and street racers) are stupid.

Have a nice evening.

 

the dateline piece was pretty good, if anyone saw it

 

My point went right over your head. If you care, the point was that you contridicted yourself, and/or exaggerated greatly. But whatever floats your boat.

Reading comprehension, over my head. I guess those aren't insults. I neither contradicted myself or exaggerated, you just don't know me or understand me and apparently don't want to make an effort to do either. Drive with me or hang out with me for a day, then I'll try to respect your opinion about how I drive/carry myself.

Uh, what was the point of comparing education levels again?

You questioned my level of reading comprehension. I received a Masters in Electrical Engineering, I'm studying while working full-time towards a PhD.

Your right, you weren't clear (at least from my perspective).

I wasn't clear because you assume I'm like most people. Wrong assumption (and I will admit I make mistakes like that all the time, assumptions are always dangerous and limit a person's ability to learn/grow).

Disagree. I have a fast car (don't have a clue if it is faster than yours or not), yet I manage to enjoy the hell out of it - even when I'm not engaging in legalized racing.

I don't care if I'm faster or slower than you. My first car was a '81 diesel Rabbit, I nailed that puppy off the line too. As slow as that car was, I doubt anyone thought I was racing them. And that's the point, my behavior is the same irregardless of what car I'm driving. I push my cars to the limit. Only the limits are vastly different. Squeezing the most out my car is the challenge, competing with you or anyone else isn't. I strive for the perfect shift, the perfect launch, the fastest corner entry/exit, the most efficient engine/suspension mod.

Have a nice evening.

I'm leaving the computer behind to sit down and eat a really nice steak that my wife just prepared. She just mentioned the tomato rice, of course that's super wonderfull and delicious. She can read too! Anyways, don't worry about me.

He makes me laugh to hard to debate with him anything at all.

I took a step back and used your perspective, Bob is pretty funny.

 

Didn't say that. I said they were weak.

Perhaps you just ignored it vice failed to comprehend it?

Disagree
Correct
Without a doubt

Well, I'm in Va. You're in Ca. Probably not going to happen. Fortunately, I'm not (overtly) trying to earn respect.

There's that assumption thing you talk about below. No, as we have already discussed, I threw a (weak) insult at you. Upon further review and reflection, I have come to the conclusion that you simply ignore relevants parts.

Good on ya. Damn good thing I never claimed to be smart, nor ever brag about my schooling (or lack there of). I do have a bit of experience in the real world, though.

As far as you know. Actually, I think you weren't clear because you weren't clear - but I digress (again).

We can all certainly admit that we screw up from time to time.

Well that's a relief.

OMG. Good friend of mine had the exact same thing when it was brand new (yes, I'm dating myself). POS couldn't get out of the way of a fly stuck in a bowl of molasses.

Did it move? Could you tell?

We can agree!

I find that a bit odd and rather foolish.

At every stop light? Everywhere? Every day?

Mmmkaay. I am beginning to agree with the law we are conversing about. Congratulations - you're converting me without even trying.

I see. See above about every stoplight, etc. Scary thought.

Ever been to the track?

I'm more of a carnivore, but you have a wonderful meal. It's late, and past my bedtime, so I'm going to hit the hay.

Always a good thing to have a literate adult in the household, I always say.

Let not your heart be troubled about that one.



Ah....life's simple pleasures.

 

I think the two of you misunderstand each other. dnovotny was trying to say that in the middle of the night he drives fast, as well as when there is someone right next to him at a light. So he is questioning why he should alter his driving habits when someone is next to him just to avoid getting in trouble for "street racing" when he would have floored it from the light even if someone there WASN'T next to him. I'm with him to some degree on this - i take off faster than your average driver from a light and i suppose if i get a copy who is picky enough i coudl get a ticket for street racing (bear in mind, 1/4 throttle in our cars is about twice the amount of acceleration from a light than most drivers in their hyndai's or nissans are going to experience from a light). However, i must say when i'm alone at night at a light i take off significantly faster knowing that it's safer than when someone is near me (since you never know what some idiot next to you is gunna do). So he was not contradicting himself - simply trying to point out that he ALWAYS drives fast, regardless of whether or not someone is next to him.

 

When you put it like that, I do the same. People in Houston are terrible drivers, I drive fast to get out of the crowds and away from the flow of traffic. Me going in and around 60mph traffic at 80 is a lot less dangerous than riding in some ones blindspot. They don't look before changing lanes cause they're on the phone or doin their make up. Even worse, they hit the brakes to change lanes. If it is considered racing to "speed" throughtraffic, well then, catch me and write me a ticket.

 

sooo.....how much acceleration is "illegal" acceleration? Isn't this the crux of it? If as B Cosby says dnovotny is indulging in an illegal activity (street racing) with his penchant for hard acceleration from a stop, where do you draw the line? G meters in all cars with reporting transponders? Tattle tale cars are already here, maybe this is the next step. How about having your car turn you in to the cops? Personally I love the hard pull of an LT1 getting to breath deep & yes, I accelerate hard from a stop regularly, traffic permitting. Do I consider myself an illegal street racer? No, but apparently by some definitions I might be. So, how much accerlation from a stop up to the speed limit is "appropriate"?
There is a serious disconnect here from my perspective. What exactly does the government think we citizens are going to do with all these 400HP mega monster engines the governement has allowed GM, Chrysler & Ford to produce lately? Sure, that's right, everyone's using the immense torque & horsepower to gently pull away from a stop like it was a freakin mini van, uh huh.....

 

Exactly. I actually use my acceleration abilities as well to get away from the pack from a stop. I've witnessed people do stupid things such as try to suddenly make a right turn onto another road from the left lane and such (or today when i got ont he itnerstate an idiot in a truck went o change lanes without looking in his riced out S-10 and the mini-van in the other lane had to swerve over about 5-6 feet to avoid him nearly going into the median). These are dangerous drivers. Why is my accelerating to 45 mph in 3 seconds and then letting off to cruise at the 45mph speed limit so bad? The problem here is it sounds like it's becoming more common for cops to ticket people for street racing who aren't racing anyone at all.

 

Sold again so that it would've been donated back to them again?

 

Wow...all these people that are now going to get busted for street racing simply by taking off fast from a light. And this didn't happen until this law was passed. Interesting. Personally, I think some of you are just pissed that you can't drive however you want or as fast as you want.

The more I read the comments in this thread, the more I support this ordinance that I started out not supporting at all.

Perhaps we can lobby to get it made a Federal Law?

 

I saw the date line on street racing and I (a former "stret racer") discusted. When we used to race we would find a secluded dead end raod and do 1/4 mile runs in the middle of the night. I know this is dangerous and stupid but we were only putting at risk the willing partisapants (sp). These kids are doing middle of the day road raceing on crowded hwys.

These laws wont last long. All it takes is for them to give a welthy guy one of these tickets and for him to challenge it. Poof no more silly law. It is really easy to fight city ordinace tickets.