I admire great cars. These are all great cars. Anyone would be happy with any car here.

But considering most of us are GM fans, I think it's a good result for a GM car to be included with the best breed of performance car.

I wonder what it would take to knock the GTR off it's perch, this side of a Porsche GT2?

 

You have to remember, it's a British mag. They have no car industry for good reason... they are inferior to every other race on the planet.

 

Probably a redesigned Z06..

 

I was just going to say the same thing.

By the way they act sometimes, you would have thought Napoleon was British.

 

Well, it clearly didn't win the acceleration war, even though they tried pretty hard to skew the facts . That's fancy accounting if I've ever seen it!!

The GT-R is 0.4 seconds behind the Z06 by 100 mph ..... run them to ~125 mph (approx. 1/4 mile speed) and the gap is going to be even larger. It's not surprising that the GT-R pulled so hard off the line (due to the AWD, and due to the fact that there's no clutch to have to worry about ... and we all know that drag-racing a standard is a lot harder than an automatic ).

I'm curious what effect proper, equal tires (ie: slicks) would have on all the cars (both on the road course and drag race). In a straight line, I don't think the AWD would benefit nearly as much as the traction handi-capped RWD car, but around the road course? Who knows what would happen?

Yes, it's very impressive what the GT-R can do, but I'm still not getting wood over it .

 

I'd say we have a new bang for the buck champ.

 

where are the 1/4mi. times?

 

Considering the practicality and versatility of the AWD system (mainly, its all-weather capability) it's pretty tough to beat .

 

i don't understand why they won't make the Z06 AWD...

 

because it would add 400 lbs.

heres some stuff from the road and track article...
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...6911_chart.pdf
there is the comparison chart

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...echDetails.pdf
points breakdown

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...ct_OnTrack.pdf
track breakdown

and for the lazy...
[code] 911 Z06 GT-R
0-60 3.4 3.4 3.4
0-120 11.5 10.7 12.7
1/4 11.7 11.7 11.8
trap 121.2 123.7 116.5
skidpad .99g .99g 1.01g
slalom 70.4 73.4 70.6
60-0 110 111 108
80-0 194 189 191
lap 2:02.1 2:02.2 1:56.9
mpg 17.2 17.5 17.5
Z06 GT-R 911
0–120 mph 10.7 12.7 11.5
0–110 mph 9.2 10.5 9.9
0–100 mph 8.0 8.6 7.9
0–90 mph 6.4 7.0 6.8
0–80 mph 5.3 5.7 5.6
0–70 mph 4.5 4.5 4.2
0–60 mph 3.4 3.4 3.4
0–50 mph 2.7 2.6 2.7
0–40 mph 2.2 1.8 1.5
0–30 mph 1.6 1.1 1.0
0–20 mph 0.9 0.7 0.6
0–10 mph 0.3 0.2 0.2[/code]

edit: damn you, code, for not working on this site and squishing all the data!

 

The article states strait up, no fancy wording, that if you subtract the reaction time the Z06 would have won the 0-100-0 test, so I dont see why everyone is so upset. I really dont see the article as being biased... what they state is true, the GTR is very impressive when you consider its weight and advertised power output.

When the Z06 came out everyone was jumping up and down over how impressive it was, and now its met its match, and people seem to be upset. Posts here remind me of what I read on Viper boards when owners had a hard time comign to grips with the fact that a Vette was running with their cars.

Nothing lasts forever. If you are a Vette fan you should be happy, as the bar has been raised for the next Z06.

 

What is going to be the US sticker for the Nissan? With the weakening dollar, I bet it comes out higher than the Z06.

The Nissan is a very impressive car, no doubt. As I've said in everyone of these posts. Time will tell.

Dan

 

Low 70s starting price. Who said a "new bang for the buck champion"... the Z06 is the same price, and offers more

No top speed test? That's lame, and obvisouly biased. All the comparisons to date have been done to favor what the GTR offers. When you're comparing this caliber of car, a top speed test is mandatory. Except in the case where the American car out paces its competition by double digits.

 

Bingo. Maybe a lot higher. The dollar has lost 20% of its value relative to the yen since the announcement of this car. How would you feel about an $85,000 GT-R?

And . . . gotta reiterate: the performance may be impressive, but it *still* can't outrun the ugly.

 

Base price will be $69,850. z06 is $72,125.

Aggressive pricing on Nissan's part. They made sure it came in under the z06.