And while Team Corvette wont want to take getting beaten by the GTR sitting down, they may not have a choice.

On the other hand - you know Porsche is going to be going back after the GTR like Germans go after Poland.

But yeah, traction is more of a consideration than HP now.

 

I'd be willing to bet MotorTrend will get a lower ET on this car in their test.

Impressive numbers. I love domestics but its hard to ignore the numbers this car puts out. 0-60 in 3.3 secs and $70,000....wow.

 

Everyone mentions the launch control, but not the fact that this car has what is basically an automatic transmission. I hate driving stick, so I'm not downing the DCT, I'm saying that there won't be much differentiation in the auto rags performance #'s, as there is with a 6spd-only Z06.

The idea of this car being faster than the Z06 absolutely kills me, because its such a tremendous pig, but I can accept fact.

It's amazing that Nissan's 480hp supercar puts more power down through AWD, than Chevy puts down with its RWD Supercar at 505...

 

Not sure how the laws of physics are working for this car but it does seem to run great as a drag car or on a road course. Maybe the HP is underrated a bit or the all wheel drive system is really a technical wonder. It will make a great addtion to the magazines test fleets for what certainly be a great race with Z06's, Vipers, Turbo 911's and F430's this year.

The car looks quite a bit better in red than silver. IMO.

 

Don't you mean BOD (beginning of discussion)?

It's the driver, weather, and track that make the difference. Change those, and you'll get different results. The track will be especially important with cars like the Z06 that have far more power than they can easily get to the ground in 1st gear.

For power, I like to subtract the 0-60 time from the 0-100 time. By 60mph, you're no longer traction limited (mostly), so it's all power and aero.

 

The AWD advantage cannot be denied, but the reality is most people run quicker 1/4's for both the Viper and Z06 than those posted by Edmunds. The OLD C5 Z06 ran low 12's on street tires all day by good drivers, the new one has 100 more hp. I just dislike the "killer" stigma attached to the car, when it hasn't been placed under the same conditions as these others for an all out comparo.

I'm going to smile when GT-R owners face off against a Vette from a roll and realizes its not its killer at all, but it'll be a war no doubt... The 600 hp Viper would destroy both from a roll.

I think both SRT and Chevy will be responding shortly and settle the pecking order between themselves soon.

That said, I like the car in red, looks brutal.

 

Again you can't compare what owners have done. No owners have run the GT-R yet, so that isn't a fair comparison. Just wait till they do, you might be surprised to see owners getting faster times.

 

Oh I'm expecting them to.

This is modern warfare.

 

It'll be interesting no doubt, since turbo cars historically pull as hard from a roll as they do from a dead stop. Remember the mid '90's DSM Eclipse's, they killed quite a few giants off the line with a small 4cyl(turbo).
Porsche not going to go down easy tho...

Or slower depending(..see superbikes..)...But once we start seeing "tuners" getting their hands on them, and playing with programming, and modding them...I expect we'll see a lot of faster times...but maybe a lot of broken parts too.

 

I was under the impression the the GT-R had an "uncrackable" ecu? I very well could be wrong but thats what i thought.

 

And so it begins.

I feel like we're back in the days of DSMs vs Mustangs or Vettes vs Supras.

 

It makes discussions fun.



Plus, from a roll....

 

http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/mo...lla_on_a_diet/

Nissan GT-R goes on a diet!

 

So no more power for the Spec-V, remove the rear seats and a few luxury items. Will that save an appreciable amount of weight or is it more for the idea of it being a 'pure race car'? Not trying to slam the car I just want to know.

 

Yeah, I remember when the said that about the X-Box games, it wasn't a couple of months until it was cracked and game copies were floating around everywhere...hackers live for challenges like that.