GTR Numbers!
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Impressive number. They seem high for that amount of HP. I also wonder what fuel economy is. Not because buyer will care, but to see if they geared the hell out of it.
I can't wait until the first Z06 vs. GTR race in the REAL WORLD. Of course by the time the GTR is out the ZR1 will only be a few months away.
I can't wait until the first Z06 vs. GTR race in the REAL WORLD. Of course by the time the GTR is out the ZR1 will only be a few months away.
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It's definitely fast and quick. I can't see the need to claim victory over the Z06 and Viper though. They both have higher trap speeds by 3-4 mph, and adding a drag tire only widens the gap in E/T's negating the AWD launch of the GTR.
Plus, we've yet to see them tested back to back at the same road course, although I'm sure it will be more than capable of slightly besting the Z06, but the 600 hp Viper is beastly and not an easy kill.
They've only proven the car is the real deal to be considered a contender for bragging rights.
Plus, we've yet to see them tested back to back at the same road course, although I'm sure it will be more than capable of slightly besting the Z06, but the 600 hp Viper is beastly and not an easy kill.
They've only proven the car is the real deal to be considered a contender for bragging rights.
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I think the GTR's trunk is actually bigger, but I'm not sure. I know the truck on the R34 was pretty freakin big too.
Not slow at all. Though the launch control *should* make the launches more consistent from magazine to magazine, which is why i just tossed out the 0-60 time of the Z06 but kept the GTR one. The numbers make sense though - a DSM putting out 400hp against a C5 Z06 would trash it off the line, but by the end of the quarter pass they'd be either even or the Z06 would be in the lead. Here we have a heavier car that can really shoot out of the hole - and enough power to keep it so it doesnt fall behind the lighter, higher output car.
I'm guessing they will both perform very nearly equally on a given day, so its going to be a very very tight competition when they do get head to head.
And in terms of hating on the looks, these are sports cars - and looks play a huge part of it. Personally I like the 350Z's portions - and a wider 350Z at only a tiny bit taller would look really insane in person.
One thing to keep in mind is that Edmunds always has the slowest acceleration numbers...The fact that they used Nissan's launch control for this test definately gives the GTR an edge on acceleration numbers compared to the competition. Eitherway you cut it, an 11 second et with a 120 mph trap speed is not slow.
I'm guessing they will both perform very nearly equally on a given day, so its going to be a very very tight competition when they do get head to head.
And in terms of hating on the looks, these are sports cars - and looks play a huge part of it. Personally I like the 350Z's portions - and a wider 350Z at only a tiny bit taller would look really insane in person.
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X2. I completely agree. And truthfully, looking at a 98+ Camaro to this car, the Camaro is ugly.
Its funny how now that the numbers are posted all thats left is "its ugly." Some of yall are just plain haters!
You cannot dispute that this car is impressive. You have a 4 passengers, all wheel drive car, with a trunk that rivals Z06 performance at a Z06 price. You could concievably have this as your only automobile, and drive it year round in just about any climate condition assuming you have a 2nd set of wheels with some all season/snow tires.
One thing to keep in mind is that Edmunds always has the slowest acceleration numbers. I'm not sure on what surface and what launching techniques they use, but they always tend to be slower than the other big publications. The fact that they used Nissan's launch control for this test definately gives the GTR an edge on acceleration numbers compared to the competition. Eitherway you cut it, an 11 second et with a 120 mph trap speed is not slow.
You cannot dispute that this car is impressive. You have a 4 passengers, all wheel drive car, with a trunk that rivals Z06 performance at a Z06 price. You could concievably have this as your only automobile, and drive it year round in just about any climate condition assuming you have a 2nd set of wheels with some all season/snow tires.
One thing to keep in mind is that Edmunds always has the slowest acceleration numbers. I'm not sure on what surface and what launching techniques they use, but they always tend to be slower than the other big publications. The fact that they used Nissan's launch control for this test definately gives the GTR an edge on acceleration numbers compared to the competition. Eitherway you cut it, an 11 second et with a 120 mph trap speed is not slow.
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Not in the same MAGAZINE. It was only 1 mph different with Edmunds tests. Why don't you wait till the other magazines test it. And btw, I am long from a troll. Been here almost 10 years.
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MT vs MT results, C&D vs C&D results, Edmunds vs Edmunds.
EOD.
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It looks like the GTR will be in the ballpark of the Viper, Z06, and Porsche. A head to head comparison still will have to be done.
I'm wondering what kind of price and performance will come with the ZR1 once it's out.
I'm wondering what kind of price and performance will come with the ZR1 once it's out.
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That's awefully dang impressive no matter how you look at it. 3.3 second 0-60 is incredible for a car at this price, as long as the drivetrain lives to hold up to hard launches.
11.6@120 shows that this car is making big power. We'll just have to see how the handling ends up next to the other "bang for the buck" super cars like the Z06, Viper, Porsche...
I'm also reserving judgement until a production US vehicle is tested and we understand exactly what is coming here in the US.
Dan
11.6@120 shows that this car is making big power. We'll just have to see how the handling ends up next to the other "bang for the buck" super cars like the Z06, Viper, Porsche...
I'm also reserving judgement until a production US vehicle is tested and we understand exactly what is coming here in the US.
Dan
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look how slow they tested these typically low 13 second cars:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...3/pageId=63966
I'm not saying this GTR is 1 second slower than what a real world driver will run, but I'm willing to bet it's slower, just as the Z06 they tested was *slow* at 12.X @121mph.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...3/pageId=63966
I'm not saying this GTR is 1 second slower than what a real world driver will run, but I'm willing to bet it's slower, just as the Z06 they tested was *slow* at 12.X @121mph.
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I expect the GTR to stay about the same as the launch is MUCH easier on an AWD car.
I don't expect really any gains from better drivers on this car (GTR); whereas the RWD vehicles take a little bit more skill...and do typically get better results with better drivers.
On the street, GTR gets the Z06 out of the hole, Z06 passes at around the 1/4 mile mark and will own it on up from there; no question.