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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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I'm impressed with the GTO. That interior sure looks nice . I can't wait to get a closer look & ride in one.


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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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My only complaint is the 225/50R17 tires. 245/45 should be a minimum. A 275/40 would be better.

Smoky burnouts will be so easy with that torque and those gears
Old Jul 8, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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They cant put a "GREAT" set of wheels on the GTO because otherwise the dealers would have nothing to overcharge for.

Get ready for $3000-$4000 aftermarket 18 inch wheels/tire combos installed by the local dealer.

I dont think the GTO comes with a sunroof so expect anther $1300 aftermarket sunroof to be installed as well.

Im sure chromed OEM wheels will be at least and extra $1500.

Dealer dont sell cars for fun and they are going to look for ways to make extra $$ on those who must be the first to have the newest toy on the block.
Old Jul 8, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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I thought the GTO was going to get 18" rims, that is what the concept had. 225mm tires are way too thin for that car, even a V6 camaro and GTPs have 235mm tires.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by johnsocal
New cars for the first year are very low profit since there is so many costs/expense upstart costs, advertising, and etc.

Why dump the current GTO so soon and just when it really starting to become profitable since costs have finally been recouped.
Ummm, because most costs would have been recovered by Holden selling about 5000 cars (or something like that) in the aussie market. Modification to the GTO costs would be insignificant and any modifications in the future would be payed for in that years run. easily!


I doubt a all-new GTO will be out in 2006 and even doubt it would come out in 2007 (when the new Camaro comes out hopefully) since the existing GTO can still be made while they ramp up and start production of the new Camaro for the first year and then bring out the all new GTO to be made in the same plant a year later as a 2008 model.
Holden are contracted to make the GTO for 3 years, that puts the end of importation of that car from Australia at late '06. I would expect it to be the first US production car made in America with the VE platform. Reason being Only the GTO has been confirmed from production in the US, I believe GM has said that other RWD cars will be made but they haven't said exactly what yet.


A two year life cycle of the current GTO just seems to short, but 4 years does sound more realistic and even that would be very short by historical standards.
3 year life cycle. Around when the GTO contract finishes Holden will start using the VE platform. Therefor wont continue with the currect platform.


A refreshening is one thing, a completely all-new car is another.
The US built car will be based on the VE platform which is suppost to be flexable. That should make the car much easier to design and manufacture.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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And all of these talks of the generation to follow this GTO are relying on this '03-'05 run being a success. I would hope this to be the case, but as we've seen already there are a lot of critics who don't care for the car's styling. Hopefully GM steps in to keep price-gouging a non-factor as well. Even Infiniti dealers are selling the hot G35 coupe for MSRP. We'll see what SLP has up their sleeves for the '03 though, and at what price.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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I just wouldnt be suprised to see the current GTO get produced longer than most think to make it easier to launch the next-gen Camaro.

Considering that by the time 2007 rolls-around it would have been 5 years since the last Camaro was built and alot of pentup demand would surely exist. I would think the first year sales for a new Camaro would keep the production at full capacity and the new GTO would be brought into production a year or two later.

Most people get 5 year loans and all those 2003 GTO's would be paid for (and have around 70,000 miles on the odometer) by the time the all-new 2008 model arrives so the Pontiac dealers could sell them the new 08 GTOs.

GM might even be holding back the next-gen GTO a little longer then expected to see how the 2003 GTO does. If the 2003 GTO bombs then I would think all future versions would get canned as well.

Its all just fun speculation anyway but Im sure we will all figure it all out eventually.

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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 01:03 AM
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I'm willing to bet that the GTO will no reappear if Camaro is meant to be built on its frame. They are both independent projects. The GTO affects the Camaro because a successful GTO (and successful 05 Mustang) proves the market for a 2+2 V8 RWD car when it is done right. Also in 2007, I don't think demand for Camaro will build up, but fade away a little...
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 03:40 AM
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The demand for the Camaro will always be here, think about it. They'll also always be on the streets and tracks and it will just get bigger as time goes by because of frustration and not having a new 1 to drive out of a showroom.
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Phantom Black Metallic? I don't think I've ever seen a Metallic Black car before
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by IZ28
The demand for the Camaro will always be here, think about it. They'll also always be on the streets and tracks and it will just get bigger as time goes by because of frustration and not having a new 1 to drive out of a showroom.
I don't see people beating down GM's door over the Chevelle. True, we want one, but I don't see a mob force over there. People will adapt to new cars and move on. Let's think outside of the dragstrip here. If the Camaro wasn't planned to return, buyers would move to the GTO, the new Mustang, G35's, the future Supra (once there is more info on it), and other cars that are appearing as the second golden age of muscle cars appears. Demand decreases. It's the nature of things. We have to think outside of car fanatics like us for a moment here.
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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I dont see whats so special about this cra...just nother LS1...been out since 1997 guys zzzzzzzzzzzz
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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and a z06 is just another ls1 too right?

this is just the beginning for this car.GM is starting its musclecar comeback and this is where it starts.sorry if your not pleased.

i like this car and its going to open the door for other badass GM products.have a positive outlook.GM is heading in the right direction with this car.
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by CLEAN
...make mine quicksilver w/ red interior.
Ooh! That would look nice!
Old Jul 11, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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The only negative thing I find in all this is that with the GTO, the Firebird's chances of return are slim to none.



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