Got a chance to modify that Concept some more....
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Got a chance to modify that Concept some more....
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I liked that one a lot too jg95z28. I didn't care for the overdone stripes and the third gen front. I want to see a clean, sleek, modern design, with SUBTLE hints of previous generations. The original concept does exactly that.
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http://www.helixstudio.com/ssmd/camaro/camaro_ss_rev1.jpeg
I liked that one a lot too jg95z28. I didn't care for the overdone stripes and the third gen front. I want to see a clean, sleek, modern design, with SUBTLE hints of previous generations. The original concept does exactly that.
http://www.helixstudio.com/ssmd/camaro/camaro_ss_rev1.jpeg
I liked that one a lot too jg95z28. I didn't care for the overdone stripes and the third gen front. I want to see a clean, sleek, modern design, with SUBTLE hints of previous generations. The original concept does exactly that.
I like a car that makes people look and doesn't blend in. 
Chrome bars and blended mirrors are not for me.
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The differences between take 1 and 2 reflect input from Evok and Danno both of whom have at the very least seen the actual(?) car (in Danno's case) or have apparent inside information (Evok).
Myself, I prefer the cut of the 3/4 window in take 1 (mine) to take 2(mine). It looks more aggressive -IMO.
One other change I haven't had time to make is the rear quarter line where it integrates under the 3/4 window apparently extends into the door, similar to the C6.
To IZ28, while I can see your personal preferences in style coming to the surface in your takes - which I am not saying are wrong nor well intentioned. The only real problem I have with your newest attempt is the foglights. I don't think that the 3rd gen lower grille works - maybe it's a finesse thing, but it was pointed out that the outboard foglights/intakes (real or pseudo) a la Impala, C5 and the SS concept are the likely reality so a centre mounted setup is not likely gonna happen - unless the front end is changed - it is the only thing about the car that's up in the air - so they say.
Perhaps, had I chosen a different perspective or point of view the car would look more rakish/exciting/less retro for some people... remember, I didn't change the basic SS lines and that's one rakish car - IMHO - even if it is a four door.
In the end it is all conjecture - until GM unveils something officially. You may also notice that I modifed the bodyside spears and they do resemble those drawn in by IZ28 - but once again, that was a change made in light of "insider" input, not because I thought they looked better.
Myself, I prefer the cut of the 3/4 window in take 1 (mine) to take 2(mine). It looks more aggressive -IMO.
One other change I haven't had time to make is the rear quarter line where it integrates under the 3/4 window apparently extends into the door, similar to the C6.
To IZ28, while I can see your personal preferences in style coming to the surface in your takes - which I am not saying are wrong nor well intentioned. The only real problem I have with your newest attempt is the foglights. I don't think that the 3rd gen lower grille works - maybe it's a finesse thing, but it was pointed out that the outboard foglights/intakes (real or pseudo) a la Impala, C5 and the SS concept are the likely reality so a centre mounted setup is not likely gonna happen - unless the front end is changed - it is the only thing about the car that's up in the air - so they say.
Perhaps, had I chosen a different perspective or point of view the car would look more rakish/exciting/less retro for some people... remember, I didn't change the basic SS lines and that's one rakish car - IMHO - even if it is a four door.
In the end it is all conjecture - until GM unveils something officially. You may also notice that I modifed the bodyside spears and they do resemble those drawn in by IZ28 - but once again, that was a change made in light of "insider" input, not because I thought they looked better.
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ehh..I don't know..
the nose area looks off center.It's like someone hit a pole on the passenger side,twisting the front a little.
p.s. For some reason it reminds me of the 1st gen mitsubishi eclipse/eagle talon.
p.s. For some reason it reminds me of the 1st gen mitsubishi eclipse/eagle talon.
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Originally posted by SharpShooter_SS
The differences between take 1 and 2 reflect input from Evok and Danno both of whom have at the very least seen the actual(?) car (in Danno's case) or have apparent inside information (Evok).
Myself, I prefer the cut of the 3/4 window in take 1 (mine) to take 2(mine). It looks more aggressive -IMO.
One other change I haven't had time to make is the rear quarter line where it integrates under the 3/4 window apparently extends into the door, similar to the C6.
To IZ28, while I can see your personal preferences in style coming to the surface in your takes - which I am not saying are wrong nor well intentioned. The only real problem I have with your newest attempt is the foglights. I don't think that the 3rd gen lower grille works - maybe it's a finesse thing, but it was pointed out that the outboard foglights/intakes (real or pseudo) a la Impala, C5 and the SS concept are the likely reality so a centre mounted setup is not likely gonna happen - unless the front end is changed - it is the only thing about the car that's up in the air - so they say.
Perhaps, had I chosen a different perspective or point of view the car would look more rakish/exciting/less retro for some people... remember, I didn't change the basic SS lines and that's one rakish car - IMHO - even if it is a four door.
In the end it is all conjecture - until GM unveils something officially. You may also notice that I modifed the bodyside spears and they do resemble those drawn in by IZ28 - but once again, that was a change made in light of "insider" input, not because I thought they looked better.
The differences between take 1 and 2 reflect input from Evok and Danno both of whom have at the very least seen the actual(?) car (in Danno's case) or have apparent inside information (Evok).
Myself, I prefer the cut of the 3/4 window in take 1 (mine) to take 2(mine). It looks more aggressive -IMO.
One other change I haven't had time to make is the rear quarter line where it integrates under the 3/4 window apparently extends into the door, similar to the C6.
To IZ28, while I can see your personal preferences in style coming to the surface in your takes - which I am not saying are wrong nor well intentioned. The only real problem I have with your newest attempt is the foglights. I don't think that the 3rd gen lower grille works - maybe it's a finesse thing, but it was pointed out that the outboard foglights/intakes (real or pseudo) a la Impala, C5 and the SS concept are the likely reality so a centre mounted setup is not likely gonna happen - unless the front end is changed - it is the only thing about the car that's up in the air - so they say.
Perhaps, had I chosen a different perspective or point of view the car would look more rakish/exciting/less retro for some people... remember, I didn't change the basic SS lines and that's one rakish car - IMHO - even if it is a four door.
In the end it is all conjecture - until GM unveils something officially. You may also notice that I modifed the bodyside spears and they do resemble those drawn in by IZ28 - but once again, that was a change made in light of "insider" input, not because I thought they looked better.
The question is this.... if "take 2" is 85-90% accurate of what the next Camaro will look like, would you buy it?
To that, my answer is a definte "yes".
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problem with that one is that the headlights and grill are one, much like the first gens. The new one you have is much better.
I dont like the lower grill. Doesnt go well with the design you have. The fender accent on the front is too first gen. Give it a regular wheel flare. Headlights are too small. Make them larger.
The ttops with the sail with that side window doesnt go well. There needs to be a B pillar.
Im still a big fan of a hatch-back design of the last 2 gens.
problem with that one is that the headlights and grill are one, much like the first gens. The new one you have is much better.
I dont like the lower grill. Doesnt go well with the design you have. The fender accent on the front is too first gen. Give it a regular wheel flare. Headlights are too small. Make them larger.
The ttops with the sail with that side window doesnt go well. There needs to be a B pillar.
Im still a big fan of a hatch-back design of the last 2 gens.
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I agree with you Al. I'm more for no quarter window at all because of the way the T-Tops look. Something about it just isn't quite right when you have both. And I'd rather have a hatch too.
And yes everyone, I DO NOT want to try and create what the current concept of the car looks like, that's not my intent, especially because plenty of others are doing it. It can change and hopefully will which is why I wanna throw new ideas out there for GM/people to see. It doesn't have to be overly retro and CAN HAVE cues from all Gens while being aggressive and not plain. Almost everything that is supposedly like the current concept does not excite me or make me want one, and that's not good coming from a Camaro lunatic. A friend somewhat like myself with Camaros also finds the real-based ones boring but went crazy over the aggressivness of the modified ones. The Camaro needs those kinds of sharp looks.
And yes everyone, I DO NOT want to try and create what the current concept of the car looks like, that's not my intent, especially because plenty of others are doing it. It can change and hopefully will which is why I wanna throw new ideas out there for GM/people to see. It doesn't have to be overly retro and CAN HAVE cues from all Gens while being aggressive and not plain. Almost everything that is supposedly like the current concept does not excite me or make me want one, and that's not good coming from a Camaro lunatic. A friend somewhat like myself with Camaros also finds the real-based ones boring but went crazy over the aggressivness of the modified ones. The Camaro needs those kinds of sharp looks.
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Originally posted by IZ28
I agree with you Al. I'm more for no quarter window at all because of the way the T-Tops look. Something about it just isn't quite right when you have both. And I'd rather have a hatch too.
And yes everyone, I DO NOT want to try and create what the current concept of the car looks like, that's not my intent, especially because plenty of others are doing it. It can change and hopefully will which is why I wanna throw new ideas out there for GM/people to see. It doesn't have to be overly retro and CAN HAVE cues from all Gens while being aggressive and not plain. Almost everything that is supposedly like the current concept does excite me or make me want one and that's not good coming from a Camaro lunatic. A friend somewhat like myself with Camaros also finds the real-based ones boring but went crazy over the aggressivness of the modified ones, and the Camaro needs those kinds of sharp looks.
I agree with you Al. I'm more for no quarter window at all because of the way the T-Tops look. Something about it just isn't quite right when you have both. And I'd rather have a hatch too.
And yes everyone, I DO NOT want to try and create what the current concept of the car looks like, that's not my intent, especially because plenty of others are doing it. It can change and hopefully will which is why I wanna throw new ideas out there for GM/people to see. It doesn't have to be overly retro and CAN HAVE cues from all Gens while being aggressive and not plain. Almost everything that is supposedly like the current concept does excite me or make me want one and that's not good coming from a Camaro lunatic. A friend somewhat like myself with Camaros also finds the real-based ones boring but went crazy over the aggressivness of the modified ones, and the Camaro needs those kinds of sharp looks.
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Originally posted by jg95z28
That's the point I think everyone who says, "I'd change this" or who does their own version of the "concept" is missing... this was an attempt to draw what the actual prototype looks like based upon rumored-fact. Sure there are a lot of things we'd all rather see, however, what you may want and what you may get are two different things.
The question is this.... if "take 2" is 85-90% accurate of what the next Camaro will look like, would you buy it?
To that, my answer is a definte "yes".
To answer your question - would I buy it?
I'd have to say yes (my wife may disagree but I have a couple of years to wear her down:-). Honestly I think maybe 85-90% accuracy would be pushing it but... in the flesh I think it could be a very interesting car.