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I imagine all of those are retal sales. Plus they are high profit cars with a base MSRP of $28K. 250,000-300,000 Impalas a year, x 18% = 45,000-54,000 LS4 Impalas per year. If the Commadore sells for $30K in the US w/ a 367HP L76 they should sell every single one real fast.

 

I'm also told that Monte Carlo SS is running about 50% of MC's retail sales, also far above expectations.

I'd say this helps makes a case for a premium Chevy sports coupe.

 

Most excellent news.

 

50% of retail sales works out to less than 3,100 MC SS's through the first half of the year.

 

Hmmmm.

GM has sold 27,581 Monte Carlos to date this year (20% increase over last year, but still 400 fewer than Corvette).

Pull out the fleet sales, and half of what's left does put us in the pretty depressing range of 3-5,000 cars. GTO even did alot better.

But then, how much of that low number is due to MC being around since 1999 (7 model seasons) in a class (coupes) where cars get old after just a few years. Again, far more expensive GTOs sold better (8895 so far this year, and it's been out of production since August).

This is the same stage Camaro was in when it was discontinued, so any sales arguement that could be waged against a MC replacement can be used to even greater effect against the Camaro. An MC replacement can be made using the Impala structure. Camaro needed a new, almost totally unique one.

 

Yeah, I don't know dude, the numbers are not very encouraging. Kinda too bad. Anyone know how the Accord coupe and Solara numbers are?

 

I've been trying to find exact Solara and Accord coupe numbers for quite awhile. Everyone knows the numbers are pretty low, but trying to find it in print is almost impossible. Almost as if both companies are embarressed or want to keep it top secret.

 

Yeah, I know, they lump the coupes into their total numbers.

 

What % of Chargers are Hemi V8's (and how many units a year is that?)

 

But thats 50% of Retail MC were SS.... Not total MC's. Where did you get the 3,100 MC SS's were produced??? What that tells me is that 50% of people who went to the dealership opt. for the SS model... which is excellent. Tough to compare to GTO sales since the GTO had few options.

It would be hard to believe that 50% of all Camaro sales were SS or even Z28's combined durring the final years... although we are talking more cars total.

What we need to know is how many of total MC's produced went to retail.
(if 3 to 6000 MC's were SS's, that means 6 to 12,000 total MC's went to retail or roughly 79% to 57% were fleet???) Didn;t realize it was that high.

Also, not only do they include Solara and Accord Coupes in with their sedans, I've never seen a break down of how many were acturally I4's and V'6s. Again I would say not a direct competator to the MC.

 

I think ~60% of Camaros had a V8 the last year of production.

Mustang was close to 50-50% for 2005

 

I stand corrected

 

1999 was 41.3% V8 Camaros

https://www.camaroz28.com/articles/9...rs/index.shtml

2002 was 59.4% V8

https://www.camaroz28.com/articles/0...rs/index.shtml

 

Solara and Accord aren't exactly sports coupes, and they aren't exactly small coupes either, so it's pretty safe to say there's some overlap with the Monte, or at least shows where today's Monte's market position is.

The number Charlie came up with is based on the news that over 50% (close to 60% if I remember) goes to low profit fleet sales & rental companies. MC sold just over 27K cars this year, meaning 10-12 or so retail. I got word that most of MC's retail sales were the new V8 powered SS, which is down around the 5K range.

Charlie's 3K is kind of low, but it still shows a stark difference in sales between the supposedly too expensive GTO (nearly 9K this year) and the 3-5K Monte Carlo SS. It's perfectly good to compare the 2 since we are talking about large loaded V8 performance coupes, one from a division that has over 4,000 dealers and the other that's probally around 2-3K.

 

Wow, people like big ol American cars w/ V8 power....what a concept!

It is a fun car. Would be more fun if it were RWD, but compared to what it replaced, no contest!