Chevy's website lists the Corvette's weight at 3179. So I'd say, comparing apples to apples, manufacter data to manufacer data, the Corvette has a slight lead, although I'd say they both weigh roughly the same thing. Jason, you are getting a little sloppy here, we need total redzed ownage here.

Also, the Nissian is a pig if you consider that it has a V6, is 5" shorter than the Vette and weighs the same amount.

 

Very good point. Another laughable point is upgrading the 350z. Looks like Nissan has outdone themselves with their newest Z incarnation. Their own in house performance dept. (NISMO) could only get about 20hp out of the thing with their OWN parts. It was in Sport Compact Car a few months ago. I'd link it but I'm feeling kinda lazy. Anyway, they put in about 7-8 items from NISMO's catalog for the 350z. Total price was rediculous, we're talking about $6000 in NISMO parts. And all they could yield from it was 20hp. Go NISSAN!!!

Its quite sad when Stillen and Greddy can outdo Nissan that badly on Nissan's own car. Hows that for performance?

 

1. The idea of TWO Nissan Zs for the price of a ONE loaded Corvette C6 make a great counterpoint to AronZ28's criticism.

2. Since the C6 is a few inches shorter that the C5 and doesn't weigh all that much less, should the term "pig" apply? Hardly?

3. That Redzed quote in AronZ28's sig leads me to believe there's another case of "hero worship" in this forum. I can see how this thing happens, Redzed predicts the poor reception of the GTO in the USA, then it happens. Perhaps AronZ28 thinks that Redzed has powers of prophecy?

 

Just a few points that I would like to share.

1. The 350Z was one of benchmark cars for the C6. It may be a little heavy(downside of platform sharing), and a little underpowered but can put up a good fight on the track.

2. The GTR will be using twin turbo V6 (vq33dett?) for the rest of the world and probably a V8 here and riding on the bigger FM platform that is used for the 06 Infiniti M35/45 (the current Nissan Fuga).

3. For the vq35 being maxed out, I highly doubt it. Nismo is actually pretty consertive when it comes to parts, they are more conserned with balance than all out numbers. The VQ can deffeintly make power, people just have to learn how to tune it and get the ecu worked out

 

that quote is to show that you have no idea what you are talking about. The "crude" GTO. And don't worry, I'll change it when I find a better quote. It might take a while though. I found one in the steriods thread, and remeber steriods make you angry, and they said that this one guy was turned gay by them

Quote:
Originally Posted by ssbowtie1
Because once you realize that roids turned you gay and you're gonna spend the rest of your life plowing men's asses, you get pretty pissed off and start breaking things.

but unfortently somebody else started using it in their sig.

now what was the point of this thread?

 

Lets cut out the personal flames - they are not acceptable here. This thread will be closed if this keeps up.

 

It would probably be best that we all find it and stick to it. The vindictive quoting and "plowing" references should probably be left at the door.

 

Considering the 350Z is closer on a conceptual basis to the original 240Z than the steaming 300ZX turbo, that's a pretty big compliment.


Interestingly, I still don't have a fix on just how big the FM platform will get? Is the Q45/Cima/President going to be FM-based? The Fuga only gains two inches in wheelbase over the current FMs, but there are very significant gains in the engine compartment.


The VQ35 is maxed out in bore size, but that's about all.

 

By whom? GM? Car magazines?

 

By "benchmarked" I think he just meant those were the cars the C6 mules were frequently tested against by GM during development. This is what they did during C5 development when they used Porsches and the Japanese sports cars of the day, then developed a car that blew them out of the water.

 

okay, so my quote was innappropriate. I should have just posted the link to that thread instead of copying it and pasting it. My apolgies. But I thought we could all use a little humor.

Getting back on topic, if the 350Z tops out at 37K fully loaded right now, then adding the V8 will further increase its price. Lets say the V8 option adds 5K, bumps the price to 42K. Now you are getting into Vette territory. If it doesn't peform as well or outpeform the Vette, there will be dissappointment and sales will not be so hot.

Also, remeber the folly of the 300ZX. The price was not affordable(I think they were close to 50K in their final years, but don't quote me on that). The twin turbo models also weighed around 3500lbs, and the already pigish Z will gain more weight with a V8(especially a big, heavy DOCH V8)

 

Probably not, no one has heard much about the new Cima to my knowledge except it will gone after 06. I would think a new global platform would be used based on the FM type design

Yeah, maybe a little bit more bore is doable, but there is still stroke available (look at the vq40). And what I meant about maxed out, more power is available, just wait for more parts to come available and people to learn the more and more specificly, crack the ecu. The Vq30 took to mods pretty well, so just give it time. Also Nismo has built a 450hp vq38 racing motor, so parts will trickle down as they learn

GM, not bad for Nissan since there car costing realisticly about $10,000 less than a C6.

 

Not bad at all. Having said that, I would think they could also use S2000, since that car appears to be the king of road courses in handling. I remember watching a video where they had M3, 350Z, S2000 and something else do some runs, and while S2000 lacked in power, it really made up for any lack of it in the turns.

 

It would surprise me if the S2000 and the M3 werent also benchmarks, cause even though these cars are not direct competition against the C6, it would be sad if these cars performed noticably better for less money (excluding the M3)

 

M3 is quite heavy compared to the competition, and while it has great acceleration and good handling, the competition handles better.