GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
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Re: GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Kappa, Schmappa......
Let's say Kappa-esque with 2 more seats and better utility.
Let's say Kappa-esque with 2 more seats and better utility.
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Re: GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
Originally Posted by 1965GP
Not sure anyone is going to do it, but if someone were to make a replacement front end for the 5th gen to make it look like a firebird (like that company that transformed GTO's into modern chevelles) this would keep them from using the name.
I want to get a new Challenger and make a new Barracuda REAL BAD!
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Re: GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
You and Josh been sharing notes?
Again, lots of speculation on my part - but it's fun to talk about.
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Re: GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
Originally Posted by 97z28/m6
if it's a kappa it should weigh less than the solstice.
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Re: GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
I'm a traditionalist (Just like the Camaro guy's.) when it comes to the Firebird. While I don't mind putting the car on a different chassis, I DO want it to retain the same formula! That means not only rear wheel drive, but an available v-8 as well! Now I know that kappa was designed around 4 cyl. only, but Holdens Torana concept was modded to take a twin turbo v-6 so it can be modded to take a v-8! However, it may unfortunately be too impractical for the General to do it. If this car tops out with a turbo ecotec then I would rather they called it a Sunfire or Sunbird than a Firebird! It would be like you Camaro guys being told that the top Camaro would have a turbo ecotec as it's engine instead an ls7! (Then you would know how the Mustang guy's felt from '79-'81!)
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Re: GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
Originally Posted by Maximum Bob
I'm a traditionalist (Just like the Camaro guy's.) when it comes to the Firebird. While I don't mind putting the car on a different chassis, I DO want it to retain the same formula! That means not only rear wheel drive, but an available v-8 as well! Now I know that kappa was designed around 4 cyl. only, but Holdens Torana concept was modded to take a twin turbo v-6 so it can be modded to take a v-8! However, it may unfortunately be too impractical for the General to do it. If this car tops out with a turbo ecotec then I would rather they called it a Sunfire or Sunbird than a Firebird! It would be like you Camaro guys being told that the top Camaro would have a turbo ecotec as it's engine instead an ls7! (Then you would know how the Mustang guy's felt from '79-'81!)
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Re: GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
It would be nice to see the return of the Firebird. Granted I am happy about the return of the Camaro, but it will seem a little weird without its other half alongside it.
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Re: GM trademarks Firebird and Fiero....
Originally Posted by Maximum Bob
I'm a traditionalist (Just like the Camaro guy's.) when it comes to the Firebird. While I don't mind putting the car on a different chassis, I DO want it to retain the same formula! That means not only rear wheel drive, but an available v-8 as well! Now I know that kappa was designed around 4 cyl. only, but Holdens Torana concept was modded to take a twin turbo v-6 so it can be modded to take a v-8! However, it may unfortunately be too impractical for the General to do it. If this car tops out with a turbo ecotec then I would rather they called it a Sunfire or Sunbird than a Firebird! It would be like you Camaro guys being told that the top Camaro would have a turbo ecotec as it's engine instead an ls7! (Then you would know how the Mustang guy's felt from '79-'81!)
I hear what you are saying.
But the goal here would be to create excitement and sell cars. So, if such a RWD, 2 door, 2+2, 300 hp, great handling, Pontiac coupe/hatchback were built - and the Firebird name were available for it - but it was instead called Sunbird.......well, that would just be dumb.
