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GM sales plummet 6.8%

Old Jan 4, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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GM sales plummet 6.8%

GM, the world's largest automaker, said sales excluding its Saab brand fell 6.8 percent in December to 425,303 vehicles, ending a year when it lost about 1 percentage point of market share.

Ford down 3.6%.
Toyota up 18%
Nissan up 32%

GM lost about 1 percentage point of market share, and Ford barely outsold Chevrolet.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/050104/autos_sales_4.html

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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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I'm wondering where everyone is who kept telling me that by now GM would no longer be losing grounds, but instead, Toyota would be.
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Stupid consumers.
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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It was the die hard GM nuthuggers on this site, who could not see the reality of the GM lineup.. It will get better though for GM, I hope.
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Ford lost a point of market share as well. Silly domestics...
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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Great news for our $500 billion trade deficit....

I hope you young folks have rich parents. You may not have any jobs....
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by robvas
Hey, keep going and buying **** overseas, by the time everyone realizes it, it'll be too late. Keep shopping at Walmart and buying Toyotas.
Well, it looks like GM has some nice new models being released that have upped the quality like the cobalt and G6. If they move passed their bad reputation in this area, things will look up for them. I will only buy American regardless, but that is of my own accord.
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Good!!

Maybe they'll do something about how much they rip people off....lol. People aren't going to buy their $20 bolts anymore ....they will go get some ARP which or better....point being people are kindof getting fed up with high priced parts....at least i am. They are high priced anyway, then the dealorship has another mark up. Or make a real car like the Camaro again.....hmmm they said the Camaro wasn't selling....but wait none of their stuff is really selling....guess they just wanted to axe it.....have a little resentment for GM if you can't tell. They make good cars and parts...but their attitude and style i don't care for--nor do i of any other car dealor...guess they are competitive.

I am pleased they finally made a car to keep up with the Viper though....2005 Corvette is going to be awesome.
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Slappy3243
Well, it looks like GM has some nice new models being released that have upped the quality like the cobalt and G6. If they move passed their bad reputation in this area, things will look up for them. I will only buy American regardless, but that is of my own accord.
No, damnit, the Accord is a Honda! Geez!
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Main reason being.....if they would spend a little extra to put some more ponies under the hood...or spend a little extra on the suspensions...they are getting better about it though.

I'll tell you right now....Nissan and Honda spend way more on engenering than does GM.....when GM realizes this quits cutting corners and puts some real cars out there they will be back in business.....come up with some real names too.......who buys a truck called Colorado??? That's a state get a better name. Ford Lightning now there is a name and a truck to back it.
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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How the hell does Toyota increase sales by 18% and Nisssan up 32%!!!!??
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Solidous_Snake
How the hell does Toyota increase sales by 18% and Nisssan up 32%!!!!??
It's easier to improve a low sales figure than it is to improve a high sales figure.

Nissan was almost bankrupt a few years back... they got a few billion dollars from Rennault to get their act back together and have made great 'improvements' since then, which in all reality means they've cut their costs to the point of making cheap cars for lower prices and are making a killer profit off of it because people still assume Nissan = Nissan.

I don't even think of them as half of the same company anymore and personally I see the veil on their act is already wearing thin. People will start to catch on soon enough - but if Nissan is smart they will change their act before that happens (from what I read about the new M35/45 they are already changing their tune).
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Hehe...just thought it would be cool time to throw in that, all 8 of my wife and I, and my parents vehicles bear the Chevrolet or GMC name. And if I can recall correctly - out of a total 18 vehicles in my above mentioned family, there have been only 4 that weren't GM, and 1 that was foreign.
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by White Knight
I'll tell you right now....Nissan and Honda spend way more on engenering than does GM.....when GM realizes this quits cutting corners and puts some real cars out there they will be back in business.....come up with some real names too.......who buys a truck called Colorado??? That's a state get a better name. Ford Lightning now there is a name and a truck to back it.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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And for the last effing time I will say do you people realize that about the same or slightly higher percentage of Nissan, Toyota, and Honda's vehicles sold in the US are produced in the US than of most of the domestic brands? Quite a bit of their engineering is being done over here as well, and almost all of their administrative practices as well. The only thing that really makes it back to Japan is the profits, which usually get invested right back into their operations here.

So the domestic manufacturers sure aren't helping us out much either by moving jobs off shore, then again they kinda have to because the unions have grabbed them by the ***** (whereas most of the japanese manufacturers have gone to great lengths to deny union labor).

So it's not just the consumer. It's the manufacturer and the unions and so much more.

But I'm not worried. This is the beginning of what I think will someday be known as the global economy ages. We had the industrial age last and now we start seeing companies become very multinational, and jobs become more evenly distributed.

Personally I'm glad to see this happen. I think it's the only way we can truely unite the world on a cultural level some day is through money/economic binding (the only language that all countries speak).

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