GM sales plummet 6.8%
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Originally Posted by Threxx
It's easier to improve a low sales figure than it is to improve a high sales figure.
Nissan was almost bankrupt a few years back... they got a few billion dollars from Rennault to get their act back together and have made great 'improvements' since then, which in all reality means they've cut their costs to the point of making cheap cars for lower prices and are making a killer profit off of it because people still assume Nissan = Nissan.
I don't even think of them as half of the same company anymore and personally I see the veil on their act is already wearing thin. People will start to catch on soon enough - but if Nissan is smart they will change their act before that happens (from what I read about the new M35/45 they are already changing their tune).
Nissan was almost bankrupt a few years back... they got a few billion dollars from Rennault to get their act back together and have made great 'improvements' since then, which in all reality means they've cut their costs to the point of making cheap cars for lower prices and are making a killer profit off of it because people still assume Nissan = Nissan.
I don't even think of them as half of the same company anymore and personally I see the veil on their act is already wearing thin. People will start to catch on soon enough - but if Nissan is smart they will change their act before that happens (from what I read about the new M35/45 they are already changing their tune).
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Originally Posted by Meccadeth
Catch onto what exactly? Right now I consider them up there with Honda in terms of material quality. I have no clue about their reliability, but their interiors and designs are absolutely gorgeous right now.
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Originally Posted by Meccadeth
Catch onto what exactly? Right now I consider them up there with Honda in terms of material quality. I have no clue about their reliability, but their interiors and designs are absolutely gorgeous right now.
The way an interior looks and feels from the get-go vs how it holds up over the long-term are two very different things. Just ask a Volkswagon owner, or maybe a 2002 Altima owner, or maybe even a 2004 Infiniti QX56 owner here in another year or two of driving.
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Thats part of the reliability thing...I don't know how their materials last over time either. I just know that their interiors when new are plush as anything for the same money.
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
They might be neat to look at (I don't particularly like most of them) with the shiny "brushed aluminum" looking plastic, but they are not up there with Honda/Acura in interiors. IMO, of course.
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Originally Posted by Big Red Jim
Meanwhile, DCX is back from the dead and kicking it Kung Fu style. They're car lineup is FAR more exciting than GM's, in my opinion.
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Originally Posted by Meccadeth
Maybe I would care if I was into the whole brevity thing, ok?
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Originally Posted by Threxx
I agree but DCX IMO is not even half domestic anymore realistically.
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Originally Posted by DougsfastZ
Wow Threxx look at Nissan's numbers 
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Anyway... like I said earlier in this thread, it's easier to improve from where they were a few years ago. But where they will really prove themselves is if they are still making these kind of gains 5 years from now. I think the only way they will do that is by putting some more QC into some of their models.
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Re: GM sales plummet 6.8%
Nissan has some issues, interior wise holding up and dealership warranty wise, but their drivetrains are proven, and engines are incredible and styling that many people really like. Nissan does not have any real major hurdles, except when fixing obvious flaws...for example the Nissan minivan is a total pile of crap.. Nissan is looking the other way.. Maximas wear our struts like crazy yet there is no real new part # to correct this. But overall Nissan/ Infiniti really has it going on right now. If Nissan can tweak their problems ( which are not as bad as I think threxx suggests), they will continue to eat up market share.