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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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You can get in Delphi around here, I think they pay $14 or so an hour. Who knows how long those jobs will be around, thoug.
I get paid $14/hour and the worse part is that it's the highest paying factory in the area. I need to move.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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again, UAW
Yes, I know.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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when the UAW has everyone of your employees striking for more money and it's illegal to hire new employees, what are they supposed to do?
grow some *****
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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I used to work at delphi. The plant will be closing pretty soon. Like stated before, you can't just blame the UAW. When the contracts were negotiated, the terms were agreed to by BOTH sides. If GM really wanted to change the game, they could've stockpiled parts and cars in warehouses like they did a few years ago, then let the UAW strike all they wanted to. They would've been prepared for the strike, at least for a while, and the message wouldve gotten across to the UAW that the cost of labor really needs to change.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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I used to work at delphi. The plant will be closing pretty soon. Like stated before, you can't just blame the UAW. When the contracts were negotiated, the terms were agreed to by BOTH sides. If GM really wanted to change the game, they could've stockpiled parts and cars in warehouses like they did a few years ago, then let the UAW strike all they wanted to. They would've been prepared for the strike, at least for a while, and the message wouldve gotten across to the UAW that the cost of labor really needs to change.
stock pile parts? I don't understand
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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They did this before contract negotiations. They stockpiled service parts and crap so that if a strike did happen, they will have created themselves a buffer. This is why, after contract negotiations, production requirements always slowed down a little so they could use up the stockpile before running production at full force again.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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So the UAW are primarily employees who work in the factories?
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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yup. They are the factory workers. Nobody from supervision on up is in the UAW tho.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bad95formula
They did this before contract negotiations. They stockpiled service parts and crap so that if a strike did happen, they will have created themselves a buffer. This is why, after contract negotiations, production requirements always slowed down a little so they could use up the stockpile before running production at full force again.
who's going to put the cars together if they're on strike?
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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So the UAW are primarily employees who work in the factories?
yep, and demand better health care benefits or they don't work, which costs more money, so they have to increase cost to cover it, but GM still lost 38billion last year (yes I now there is a lot more to that loss than just health care costs )

BUT, if they take the buyouts, and new people are hired...how long until THEY become a union?
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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yep, and demand better health care benefits or they don't work, which costs more money, so they have to increase cost to cover it, but GM still lost 38billion last year (yes I now there is a lot more to that loss than just health care costs )

BUT, if they take the buyouts, and new people are hired...how long until THEY become a union?
their first day on the job, it's illegal to hire non-union hourly employees
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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New hires will probably start out making more than I make now.
I heard last night on the local news that the average wage for one of their factory assembly workers was approaching $60/hr...That's $124k/year!!! That's more than the median household income of $102k in my area.

Popcorn flew and we screamed in horror.

$60/hr and you can wiggle the parking lamps loose on the older Siverados and Suburbans, and I saw the interior a-pillar trim loose on a lot of new Commanders on the Jeep lot not too long ago. No wonder GM has been losing money and Ford's vehicles are catching on fire....and why Chrysler is selling out to Indian companies named Tata!
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 97QuasarBlue3.8
I heard last night on the local news that the average wage for one of their factory assembly workers was approaching $60/hr...That's $124k/year!!! That's more than the median household income of $102k in my area.

Popcorn flew and we screamed in horror.

$60/hr and you can wiggle the parking lamps loose on the older Siverados and Suburbans, and I saw the interior a-pillar trim loose on a lot of new Commanders on the Jeep lot not too long ago. No wonder GM has been losing money and Ford's vehicles are catching on fire....and why Chrysler is selling out to Indian companies named Tata!
I'm sorry, but i gotta call bs and ask for proof
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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This will be good for GM and the consumer. American cars cost ~$80/hour to build, and Japanese cars cost ~$55/hour (I need to find a link, as this number was quoted back when talks were underway for the big 3 to be relieved of about $95 billion in healthcare liabilities). Think about the possibilities from an additional $25/hour per worker. I'm excited to see what the future will bring.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Popcorn flew and we screamed in horror.

lol.


It would only be illegal to hire non-union if GM agreed to that, Toyota has non-union people because them southerners have new ***** to strike, they know their job can be taken away at any moment.



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