Ford VS. Chevy is dead. Through the eyes of a ricer.
Originally posted by TheV6Bird
Did you read that issue of Car Craft where they did, "It's no longer Ford vs. Chevy; It's Us vs. Them!!!"
Did you read that issue of Car Craft where they did, "It's no longer Ford vs. Chevy; It's Us vs. Them!!!"
. I personally like it better this way. These imports want to make domestics a thing of the past
and they've done a decent job at doing just that.
Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
GT-40= better car with a good value (if you've got the $$$$) since it'll still beat on the exotics within $30k of it's price range (assuming).
GT-40= better car with a good value (if you've got the $$$$) since it'll still beat on the exotics within $30k of it's price range (assuming).
Originally posted by Z28Wilson
I would hold off on the "better car" judgement until it actually comes out. First of all we don't know what the performance version C6 will bring.
I would hold off on the "better car" judgement until it actually comes out. First of all we don't know what the performance version C6 will bring.
As for the performance, i doubt it'd surpass the Gt-40's. Atleast if the C6 version of the z06 is to stay a sub $50k car. You can think differently if you want, but i wouldn't recommend getting your hopes up. I don't think the C6 will lose close to 300lbs (over the c5) while using some sort of high tech composite body, employ 15" brakes, have a mid-engine setup, shave 5" off it's overall height, have a matching 500 for both Hp and Tq, etc... and the list goes on. We'll have to see what the c6 version brings to the table but i highly doubt GM will position the c6 to be a direct competitor to something like a Gt-40.
Originally posted by Z28Wilson
Second of all, you always like to point out that the Mustang is a "better car" than an F-body because it's more comfortable, has better ergonomics and so forth...no exotic I've ever heard about could be put in the category of semi-comfortable or a reasonable daily driver.
Second of all, you always like to point out that the Mustang is a "better car" than an F-body because it's more comfortable, has better ergonomics and so forth...no exotic I've ever heard about could be put in the category of semi-comfortable or a reasonable daily driver.
My previous statement was that the stang was easier to live with from day to day for your average joe compared to the F-bods. And that's "MY" opinion. Many here would disagree and that's cool. Many others agreed and went on to add that that's what made the f-bod a real performance car with no major compromises. And the mustang/f-bod aren't exotics
. I'm sure the Vette will fit this description of daily driver better then the GT-40 since it offers a good balance of everything. No single car does a better job of combining economy and performance better then the vette. But not too many $100+k cars fit the description of daily driver very well. Heck, i'm willing to wager most z06's never see the streets 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Most vettes are second cars and only see weekened, summer, and night duties. Ford will sell a maximum of 1k GT-40's a year to the current vettes selling at 29k units a year. Judging by the numbers alone, it definitely isn't a car for the masses. When i said better car i meant the use of higher quality material (hence the higher price). I doubt we'll see as much plastic in the GT-40's interior. I expect the overall fit, finish, quality, and performance to be better on the GT-40, and for the price it better be.Just my 2 cents and opinion. The definition of "Better" depends on your values, priotities, and likes. If you look at the mags, they keep ranking the m3 as being "better" then the z06 and c5. Would you agree? some would, some wouldn't. It's still too early to pass any accurate judgement on a c6 and Gt-40 but IMO the Gt-40 will most likely be the better car in "my" eyes.
Last edited by RiceEating5.0; Nov 21, 2002 at 04:14 PM.
Historically I think it's fair to say that the Vette has had a huge 1st place lead in the "most bang for your buck" category among top-end exotic sports cars, and will continue to. My point is that the GT is by no means out of reach of the future top Vette, Z06 or otherwise, even while it stays at half or a third of the price of the GT. We'll see.
Originally posted by kizz
Historically I think it's fair to say that the Vette has had a huge 1st place lead in the "most bang for your buck" category among top-end exotic sports cars, and will continue to. My point is that the GT is by no means out of reach of the future top Vette, Z06 or otherwise, even while it stays at half or a third of the price of the GT. We'll see.
Historically I think it's fair to say that the Vette has had a huge 1st place lead in the "most bang for your buck" category among top-end exotic sports cars, and will continue to. My point is that the GT is by no means out of reach of the future top Vette, Z06 or otherwise, even while it stays at half or a third of the price of the GT. We'll see.
We're all jumping to conclusion and i'm largely guilty of this
. We'll just have to wait and see what the c6 brings to the table. I don't expect it to compete with the likes of the GT-40, but if it continues with it's tradition of offering world class performance at a decent price, it's going to be one heck of a car as it has been the past 50 years.
Originally posted by Aneurysm
You call all of that garbage... "performance"?

My opinion, if it doesnt do 0-60 in 5.2 or less, 1/4 in 13.5 or less, and top speed at 160 or more, then it's not performance.
This **** you describe is worthy of heading down to the supermart on sunday afternoon to pick up the grocerices.
except for the mustang vs GTO, but we all know that the mustang is a slow piece of **** relying on the new 2003 SVT to win its races, and the GTO? who knows. How much horse will that thing have, anyway.
You call all of that garbage... "performance"?

My opinion, if it doesnt do 0-60 in 5.2 or less, 1/4 in 13.5 or less, and top speed at 160 or more, then it's not performance.
This **** you describe is worthy of heading down to the supermart on sunday afternoon to pick up the grocerices.
except for the mustang vs GTO, but we all know that the mustang is a slow piece of **** relying on the new 2003 SVT to win its races, and the GTO? who knows. How much horse will that thing have, anyway.
Re: Ford VS. Chevy is dead. Through the eyes of a ricer.
Originally Posted by stars1010
Oh come on guys! Why was this even posted? What waste of my 3 minutes. Lets talk about real car stuff, not some ricer trying to sound intelligent.
Re: Ford VS. Chevy is dead. Through the eyes of a ricer.
ROFL. Another post from the grave. Jesus, this is starting to happen quite frequently...
Anyhow, I'd lay waste to that little Honda w/ my heavy slow *** Duramax. Bet that'd **** them off, cover their car in black soot too, haha.
Anyhow, I'd lay waste to that little Honda w/ my heavy slow *** Duramax. Bet that'd **** them off, cover their car in black soot too, haha.
Re: Ford VS. Chevy is dead. Through the eyes of a ricer.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Ford vs Chevy
Mustang vs ..
SVT Focus vs....
Lightning vs...
(Mercury) Marauder vs..

Mustang vs ..
SVT Focus vs....
Lightning vs...
(Mercury) Marauder vs..

How about:
Corvette vs...........
Impala SS vs..........
Cobalt SS vs.................
Trailblazer SS vs...............
even
Malibu SS vs...................
Silverado SS..............
SSR vs......................
Ford has no performance vehicles at all, except for the Mustang.
Let's not even bring in Cadillac, Pontiac, or even Saturn.
Re: Ford VS. Chevy is dead. Through the eyes of a ricer.
Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Well, three out four are gone.
3 years ago SVT was the undisputed poop as far as everyman's performance goes. Now SVT is virtually dead with nothing left but Carroll Shelby's fingerprints all over a $40,000+ Mustang.


