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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Ford Recalls Over One Half Million Escapes

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Ford is recalling 527,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles because of a problem in the antilock braking system that could cause fires, the company said Tuesday.
Missing or incorrectly installed wiring harness seals on the Escape's antilock brake connector could allow water and other contaminates such as brake fluid or road salt to enter the ABS connector causing corrosion.
The corrosion, in turn, could "lead to an illuminated ABS warning indicator, an open fuse, and in some rare instances smoking, melting or burning of the electrical ABS connector," the company said in a statement.
The recall affects 444,880 Escapes from the 2001-2004 model years in the U.S., as well as 82,000 Escapes in Canada, Mexico and Europe, Ford said.
The hybrid version of the Escape is not included in the recall, although the Mazda Tribute, which is essentially a twin of the Ford Escape, is being included, according to spokesperson Kristen Kinley.
Ford said there had been about no reported accidents or injuries. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has been investigating the issue.
Ford, which competes with DaimlerChrysler and GM, owns a controlling stake in Mazda.
Under the recall, Ford dealers will inspect the antilock braking system for corrosion and replace it if necessary

http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/04/11/...all/index.html

Wow, that's large number of vehicles to recall. Whgat I don't understand is how there haven't been any reported cases of this happening. Wouldn't that have started the recall process?
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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I guess they are trying to Escape potential trouble....
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Great, just what Ford needs.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Well, again - it is prior to 2005 when the revamp was initiated.

And, despite the overall negative affect, I personally still view the ACTION they are taking as a positive. It looks good to show that you are standing behind your product - even if it hasn't become a major problem or resulted in a fatality (yet). Always better to be pro-active than reactive in these cases.

Oh well.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ProudPony
Well, again - it is prior to 2005 when the revamp was initiated.

And, despite the overall negative affect, I personally still view the ACTION they are taking as a positive. It looks good to show that you are standing behind your product - even if it hasn't become a major problem or resulted in a fatality (yet). Always better to be pro-active than reactive in these cases.

Oh well.
No doubt. A recall (when one is necessary) is certainly better than ignoring the problem or pretending it doesn't exist (unless of course it really doesn't exist, which does not seem to be the case here).

It's just that I'd rather see Ford in the headlines for some long needed sales increases rather than for a recall.

Old Apr 11, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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At least they're taking initiative.

Right? Am I right?

Because I remember seeing posts about how proactive Toyota/Honda is, by taking initiative and not waiting for disasters to happen.

Gosh.....
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Yeah but everytime Toyota issues a recall, God saves a kitten, right?
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by graham
I guess they are trying to Escape potential trouble....
good pun
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Are all of Ford's cars required to have potential to catch on fire?

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by muckz
At least they're taking initiative.

Right? Am I right?

Because I remember seeing posts about how proactive Toyota/Honda is, by taking initiative and not waiting for disasters to happen.

Gosh.....
I have a major issue with Toyota in particular for one reason.

I posted in this forum - about a year ago - where Toyota's "drive-by-wire" system was failing in the field. This new system was in hundreds of thousands of cars on several continents. There were numerous problems related to it and tons of complaints to dealers and Toyota from customers. Toyota tries to put it off on their dealers as an "adjustment" problem and the dealers insist they are doing everything as told to. Then Toyota tries to dump it off on "driver error". Simply put, they won't fess-up and fix what is obviously a feedback error in the design.

In one complaint that was filed, a woman cranked her car up and was letting it warm-up before driving her daughter to school. When she put the car in gear, the engine went WOT and the car slammed UNDER the house trailer they lived in, shearing the windshield and roof line of the car and decapitating her daughter. That was the first FATALITY associated with this fault. As I recall, there were at least 7 related to the problem so far, and numerous injuries and property damage, but Toyota still has not accepted responsibility or acted on the issue.

I had several links in my other post about this, and you can find it easily on NHTSA's website if you search it up.

Point is - Ford, GM, and even Chrysler seem to be FAR more willing to fess-up and make things as good as they can be - even when there is no fatality, no property damage, or even no injury related to the problem. The foreign brands just don't seem to put the same emphasis on "doing what's right". Maybe it's because of their culture - life is expendable and cheap in Asia compared to the USA and Europe... I dunno.

What peeves me even more is how the idiotic consumers that buy Toyondas will actually LIVE with shortcomings and still look you in the face and insist that their cars are better than domestics. It blows me away. They will accept vibrations or rattles in a Honda and claim "the car has 100k miles on it, it's allowed to have a little rattle", then turn around and lambaste a Chevy Impala that has a rattle at 100k miles because it's "poorly designed" or "poorly built".

Bah. I don't want to get started on this stuff in this thread.

I stand behind my first post - I applaud Ford for taking the black eye and doing what's right. I just wish they could market the sentiment behind the action instead of marketing "yet another recall", you know?
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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There is another article out there in which Ford claims there have been 50 reports of fires, so this has happened. It's just that (thankfully) no one has been injured yet.

http://www.nyse.com/interface/jsp/NHDetail.jsp?RequestID=2&pageID=NewsHeadlines&sid= ON%2004/10%20647&isdowjones=true

Proud, you sir are preaching to the choir. Just look at how long they blamed their customers for the infamous engine sludge problems. As if I'm supposed to logically believe that only owners of only certain 4 and 6 cylinder Toyota engines don't change their oil.

I'm starting to call them "Teflon Toyota". Nothing seems to stick to them.
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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Just based on what I have now read so far, the solution will be to inspect the connector for corrosion and replace it if some is found. If none is found, the connector will get a new rubber seal and a healthy shot of dielectric grease and be slapped right back together.

DAYUM.
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RussStang
Are all of Ford's cars required to a potential to catch on fire?
It sure seems that way. They'd probably save money overall by installing automatic fire extinguishing systems in all their vehicles.
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ProudPony
When she put the car in gear, the engine went WOT and the car slammed UNDER the house trailer they lived in, shearing the windshield and roof line of the car and decapitating her daughter.
Man, that is just horrid. The thought of loosing a daughter like that is just terrible.

Has there been any resolution to the drive-by-wire problem?

Dan
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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ProudPony, you're preaching to the chior!

The recall comes after police investigated three Toyota officials on suspicion of professional negligence in allegedly shirking recalls for eight years and not fixing a defect that may have caused an accident.

Five people were injured in a crash in 2004 in southern Japan when steering failed in a 1993 Toyota Hilux Surf sport utility vehicle, causing it to swing out of control. Toyota had received five reports of problems with the steering by 1996, but no recall was made until 2004, the company said.

The investigation was another embarrassment for Toyota, whose once impeccable image has been tarnished by a number of recalls.

Earlier this month, the company recalled 367,500 Toyota and Lexus sport utility vehicles in the U.S. because a piece in the front console area could come loose and interfere with the gas pedal.

Toyota has been reporting booming sales in recent years and is growing so rapidly some analysts expect it to overtake struggling General Motors Corp. of the U.S. as the world's biggest automaker in coming years.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13916606/

That story was from last year, but as Toyota ramps up to surpass GM, more is to be expected. I give Toyota about 3 to 5 more years of success before people start to catch on and sales will slide. What goes up, must come down.

As far as Ford, GOOD FOR THEM! They need to take any and all initiatives they can.
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