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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Ford 427 production plans?

Ford is considering producing the 427 concept. If it actually has a V10, that version will be a limited production performance variant.

If built....it will use a lengthened Mustang platform.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Re: Ford 427 production plans?

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Ford is considering producing the 427 concept. If it actually has a V10, that version will be a limited production performance variant.

If built....it will use a lengthened Mustang platform.
I didn't care for the styling, but the V10 part is interesting.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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I didn't care for the styling, but the V10 part is interesting.
Doubt it will have a V10, but the Fairmont (RWD sedan) project seems like it's moving again.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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It wouldn't be called the Ford 427 though. If it isn't going to have the 427ci v10, they might as well not produce it. We don't need another Town car or Ls.

I'd really like to see that 590 v10 go into the GT/40.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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I'd really like to see that 590 v10 go into the GT/40.
I mentioned that in another post earlier... I agree that would make a monsterous machine because it's putting out 590hp in N/A trim AND weighs less than the 5.4! Less intake height, better Cg, etc. - not to mention if IT IS BLOWER HAPPY... OH MY!

It would also make a ball-to-the-wall offering for Ford to market with Shelby...
Picture a 2005 Shelby Cobra 427 with a real 427! For $50k or so...

Excuse the short post... I need to go clean myself
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 12:48 AM
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The word I get is that the 427 is an indicater of what the next Crown Vic will look like.....with the V10 perhaps limited to a low volume high perf model.

That may all hinge, however on what may happen with the whole CV police car controversy. If that's not resolved, consider this the new Fairlane or Galaxy.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
The word I get is that the 427 is an indicater of what the next Crown Vic will look like.....with the V10 perhaps limited to a low volume high perf model.

That may all hinge, however on what may happen with the whole CV police car controversy. If that's not resolved, consider this the new Fairlane or Galaxy.
Z284ever, I would bet a great steak dinner that less than 5 people on this board know about the old factory built, buy at a dealer, race cars Ford put out in the early 60's (a great "history" link) that came with 427s.
You impress me!

I think I see this engine being touted for sport car performance rather than "big car" or luxury performance like those old ones did. The Fairlane and 427 Galaxie both were huge land-yacts back when they were being raced, but had very respectable times nonetheless.

The 427 Cammer as it is called was an unreal performer... with 658 horses using a dual-4V setup - FACTORY. And yes, there are some lurking around on the streets.

That's not to say that Ford couldn't reintroduce the Fairlane and Galaxie (which will actually be the Taurus replacement named the "Five-Hundred" BTW) primarily as family haulers, but offer the performance versions. But again, I doubt they would encroach on the markets of the Mustang, Cobra, GT, Marauder, SC-Tbird, and others just to put a 427 badge on it. I see the 427 getting attention in cars that are already in those markets, like Mustang, Cobra, and Marauder - cars that got the 427(or similar) back in the old days too.

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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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Do you see Ford positioning Lincoln the way GM has positioned Cadillac

About a year or 2 back, i heard some rumors about an optional or limited production v12 lincoln town car.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
Do you see Ford positioning Lincoln the way GM has positioned Cadillac

About a year or 2 back, i heard some rumors about an optional or limited production v12 lincoln town car.
Lincoln really need retooled... the LS was a start, but then they just left it at that....
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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Ford seems to be pulling back it'd aspirations for Lincoln slightly.

They pulled Lincoln out of the Premium Auto Group about a year ago. While Caddy seems to have it's sights squarely on MB and BMW.

My prediction:

Lincoln will end up somewhere between where Buick and Cadillac are going.
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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I opened Car and Driver, and the first thing that struck me about this concept was the similarity to CTS - vertical rectangular headlights, the grille, etc...

The little note in the magazine says that the vehicle will not be produced, and that instead it will stay a concept.

It also said that Ford rep said that this will be the direction of where Ford is going. So Crown Vic looking like this 427 is not altogether out of the question.
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
The word I get is that the 427 is an indicater of what the next Crown Vic will look like.....with the V10 perhaps limited to a low volume high perf model.

That may all hinge, however on what may happen with the whole CV police car controversy. If that's not resolved, consider this the new Fairlane or Galaxy.
The Crown Vic/Grand Marquis have become stale and fairly uncompetitive - hardly a surprise considering the 1992 vintage of the design and packaging. Even the Marauder's cosmetics can't hide the dowdiness of the basic shape.

My advice to Ford:

1. The Next Crown Vic needs the 6 inch longer wheelbase that's exclusive to current taxi cab models. Rear seat legroom is appalling for such a large car.

2. Drastically reduce front and rear overhangs.

3. Locate the full-sized spare in the floor of the the trunk - exactly where the current fuel tank is located. Move the tank in front of the rear axle.

4. Make the current DOHC 4.6l Marauder mill standard, or increase the displacent of the current SOHC lump to 5.0 liters. The current car feels absolutely gutless and torque-challeged. Even the Marauder is far from being a "road rocket." It's a pity that the SOHC 5.4l 3V will fit in the Australian Falcon but not this leviathan.

5. Ditch the Crown Vic nameplate. It's absolutely frumpy, and deters any buyer under the age of 70. Since Ford obviously owns the rights to the name Police Interceptor, make the the civilian model the "INTERCEPTOR."

6. Give the Panther platform cars modern chassic electronics - Stability Contr, please. The immense price of the Town Car at very least demands this feature - why not engineer it for the entire platform.

I hope the 427 Concept indicates a new way ahead for Ford's full-sized car line, but I've also heard that its the forebearer of a new small RWD platform. When you hear about a small rear-drive sedan slotted just above the Focus, it makes you wonder.
Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by redzed

I hope the 427 Concept indicates a new way ahead for Ford's full-sized car line, but I've also heard that its the forebearer of a new small RWD platform. When you hear about a small rear-drive sedan slotted just above the Focus, it makes you wonder.
There is definite consideration at Ford for a new mid-sized RWD car(Fairlane or Falcon) which will be larger than the 500 (Taurus replacement) but smaller than than the Crown Vic.

If built, it will be based on a stretched Mustang platform.
Old Jan 26, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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Actually with all the talk about the Falcon, I had heard it was going to import the Aussie version? Have you seen it? It is quite striking and I would certainly buy one if in the market. I had heard that the Aussie version and it's next generation was the basis for the CV replacement, with the return of the Falcon nameplate, for a truly global car.
Old Jan 26, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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There are reportedly a couple of Australian Ford Falcons buzzing around Dearborn right now.

Ford is currently investigating the business case of offering both long and short wheelbase versions of the Australian Falcon platform. The sheetmetal would be different, and there is great interest in the 3 valve 5.4.

I don't think Ford Australia would export to the US. Unlike Holden, they don't manufacture left hand drive models. And there are rumors that Ford's Chicago plant is being configuered to assemble RWD cars.


It's gonna get interesting.........
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