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First Test: 2010 Cadillac SRX 3.0 AWD

Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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I know that downsized it to make room for the Lambda Escalade, which would leave many scratching their heads if the current SRX continued on the Sigma platform, which is dying, isn't it?
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
This one looks nicer, and has a much nicer interior, but man oh man, GM needs to start getting it vehicle weights under control.
It is about the same as the last SRX

2009 SRX V6 AWD = 4320 lbs.
2009 SRX V8 AWD = 4,442 lbs.

2010 SRX V6 AWD = 4307 lbs. (although one GM site says 4224lbs.)

2010 Lexus RX350 V6 AWD = 4,510 lbs.

Audi Q7 V6 AWD = 5,170 lbs.

So the new SRX is lighter than the main competition the Lexus RX350 and size wise it is 4" shorter and 3" wider than the old SRX. So it is easy to see why the weight is about the same.

Looks like SRX is the lightest crossover in that segment.

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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
It is about the same as the last SRX

2009 SRX V6 AWD = 4320 lbs.
2009 SRX V8 AWD = 4,442 lbs.

2010 SRX V6 AWD = 4307 lbs. (although one GM site says 4224lbs.)

2010 Lexus RX350 V6 AWD = 4,510 lbs.

Audi Q7 V6 AWD = 5,170 lbs.

So the new SRX is lighter than the main competition the Lexus RX350 and size wise it is 4" shorter and 3" wider than the old SRX. So it is easy to see why the weight is about the same.

Looks like SRX is the lightest crossover in that segment.

Well, yeah. The old SRX was larger, had an available 3rd row (cramped or not), was based on a RWD architecture, and still was lighter than the new one.
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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The CTS wagon will take car of all 8 or 9 people that bought an old SRX.
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
So the new SRX is lighter than the main competition the Lexus RX350 and size wise it is 4" shorter and 3" wider than the old SRX. So it is easy to see why the weight is about the same.

Looks like SRX is the lightest crossover in that segment.
Did you read the part of the article that was quoted out?

This “downsized” SRX—no V-8, no third-row seat, no spare tire—weighs 4505 pounds. That’s heavier than any of its leading competitors, namely the aforementioned Lexus and Audi, as well as the Mercedes-Benz GLK350 4MATIC, the BMW X3 xDrive30i, and the Volvo XC60 T6 AWD. The Cadillac’s V-6, as our test numbers reveal, was thus overwhelmed.
In actual testing it seems the curb weight is noticeably higher than GM's claims (which often happens).
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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The CTS wagon will take car of all 8 or 9 people that bought an old SRX.
You're probably right. The new SRX more closely competes with Lexus RX than the old one. Like every other GM product from now on though - it needs to be best in class, no excuses. I'm not sure if the new SRX will deliver there.
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
Did you read the part of the article that was quoted out?

In actual testing it seems the curb weight is noticeably higher than GM's claims (which often happens).
Yeah, based on manufacturers numbers they are wrong. Even it they put their SRX on a scale with a full tank of gas it is still lighter than what Lexus says the RX350 weights and Audi says the Q7 weighs.

Originally Posted by Z284ever
Well, yeah. The old SRX was larger, had an available 3rd row (cramped or not), was based on a RWD architecture, and still was lighter than the new one.
The old SRX is a few pounds heavier according to GM. Also the new one isn't really that much smaller. Interior volume is 132 cu ft and the new SRX is 129.8 cu ft. So while there is no 3rd row there is almost as much interior space (-2 cu.ft.)

We are all very pro-RWD on this site, but the RX and Q7 buyers don't mind. Plus most sold will be AWD, at least here in the North East I'd expect 90%+ to be AWD. It is crazy to spend that kind of money and not get AWD. Escalade on the other hand is a different story.

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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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While I like the SRX, I am reminded of what my dad said when he first test drove a then-new 3rd gen: they forgot to put an engine in it.
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
Yeah, based on manufacturers numbers they are wrong. Even it they put their SRX on a scale with a full tank of gas it is still lighter than what Lexus says the RX350 weights and Audi says the Q7 weighs.

I'm not sure about the Lexus, but the Q7 comes with a third row. That's a big difference/advantage.
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Looks like a turbo version as well...available in October 2009
35 hp and 72 pound-feet of torque increase over 3.0 engine

By dropping the displacement 0.2 liters and adding a turbocharger--a formula that's worked for the same engine in the Saab 9-3 lineup--the 2010 SRX gets a flatter, higher power curve that pushes it briskly and easily around the yaw-inducing moments at the GM proving grounds. Total horsepower rises to 300 hp, with 295 pound-feet of torque. Cadillac estimates 0-60 mph times drop to the mid-7-second range with the new engine. First and most noticeable, as we rumble on the GM test track, is the engine's lack of a distinct turbo whistle or wastegate noise; where some boosted engines make their add-ons clearly heard, this turbo V-6 damps out the distinctions, leaving only a swifter pace behind.


http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/ma...llac-srx-turbo
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Has the new 3.0 received even one good review??

Every single review has been very poor, on this engine. Every one says it is sluggish, and gets poor fuel economy.

Which begs the question, why is this engine in a Cadillac???
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 95redLT1
Looks like a turbo version as well...available in October 2009
35 hp and 72 pound-feet of torque increase over 3.0 engine





http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/ma...llac-srx-turbo
+35hp out of a turbocharger???

Did they forget to bolt it on?
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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+35hp out of a turbocharger???

Did they forget to bolt it on?
I thought the same...it drops .2 liters though? Big jump in tq thoguh
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Audi Q7 is not a competitor to the '10 SRX.

Q5 is.
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