Excellent commentary on how UAW's anti-market nature is killing the Big 3 (big 5)
Re: Excellent commentary on how UAW's anti-market nature is killing the Big 3 (big 5)
we pay (or we're supposed to, in non-union fairytale land) what the JOB is worth.
Give me a break. Sweeping floors is hard? You can take a mentally deficient person and train them to do that with ease.
You all have this picture of a guy, leizurely walking around with a broom in his hands..
that's the kinda thing that kills me.My department alone is over 1/4 MILE LONG!..and over 100 yards wide...and boy does it get dirty!..I wouldn't take his job for a $5/hr increase.
You guys are clueless...by all the rhetoric, anyways.
Last edited by 90rocz; Dec 1, 2005 at 01:04 AM.
Re: Excellent commentary on how UAW's anti-market nature is killing the Big 3 (big 5)
The problem with the UAW and what its members get paid is NOT in line with what the market bears for similar jobs. That is what is causing the problem, and that was the point of the original artical.
Re: Excellent commentary on how UAW's anti-market nature is killing the Big 3 (big 5)
Originally Posted by 90rocz
What makes you think the Companies didn't want this as much as the Union..... Let's see, a few thousand, trained, employees, BOUND, to drop everything or everyjob, and come back to work on a moments notice, when they decide to increase production...sounds like a flexible workforce.
Like I said, they don't get paid until all benefits are depleted, then they get like 75% of their wage...plus whatever low wage job they're working. Many Laid off worker, can't find work in their field, w/o driving like 100-200 miles.
Like I said, they don't get paid until all benefits are depleted, then they get like 75% of their wage...plus whatever low wage job they're working. Many Laid off worker, can't find work in their field, w/o driving like 100-200 miles.
wow you're completely right! why shouldn't a company be thankful for such a thing...
Here's a hint for you. If you're in such a dire situation that you can't find work in your field within 100-200 miles then GM SHOULDN'T be paying you money. The absolute truth is every one of those workers would "drop everything" and come back to work a week ago if they WEREN'T being payed to sit on their *** and do nothing in the mean time. And you know what else? They would be no less qualified to return to work if not payed to sit on their ***, to boot. So what's the advantage to GM for having a jobs bank again?
I mean, do you have GM pay someone to wipe your *** too?
You know what, you shouldn't even speak on behalf of the UAW because if your "ideas" and your tone are ANY indication of what the UAW is like, then its probably much worse than we all understand it to be.
PUT DOWN THE KOOL-AID.
Last edited by morb|d; Dec 1, 2005 at 04:10 AM.
Re: Excellent commentary on how UAW's anti-market nature is killing the Big 3 (big 5)
Originally Posted by 90rocz
Not ALL jobs require, higher thought and high tech training to be hard, PHYSICALLY hard, fast paced and continuous, hard.
Yes, you can train practically anyone to sweep, the physical motions of sweeping. BUT...that doesn't mean, anyone, will be able to do it at a high speed pace, for hours at a time...and requires a certain level of physical fitness.
You all have this picture of a guy, leizurely walking around with a broom in his hands..
that's the kinda thing that kills me.
My department alone is over 1/4 MILE LONG!..and over 100 yards wide...and boy does it get dirty!..I wouldn't take his job for a $5/hr increase.
You guys are clueless...by all the rhetoric, anyways.
Yes, you can train practically anyone to sweep, the physical motions of sweeping. BUT...that doesn't mean, anyone, will be able to do it at a high speed pace, for hours at a time...and requires a certain level of physical fitness.
You all have this picture of a guy, leizurely walking around with a broom in his hands..
that's the kinda thing that kills me.My department alone is over 1/4 MILE LONG!..and over 100 yards wide...and boy does it get dirty!..I wouldn't take his job for a $5/hr increase.
You guys are clueless...by all the rhetoric, anyways.

You know the funny thing? The union sent me a threatning letter a month AFTER I left the job demanding I pay my dues I owed that turned out to be like 20% of all my earnings. They never saw a single cent from me. They can take me to court for all I care, I'm not giving that mob my hard earned money for nothing.
Re: Excellent commentary on how UAW's anti-market nature is killing the Big 3 (big 5)
People arguing and bickering over something that is out of almost everyone's control is not appropriate for this forum.
Cool it.
Cool it.
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