I guess they could be doing the job GM is doing to get us a car? You know the car we won't be able to own for upwards of 3 years by most speculation.

I am not a Ford fanboy, and have never owned a Ford. But, I will give a to Ford for having the ***** to be out there making cars like this.

 

Flexi-flopper chassis with a **** poor IRS is impressive?

 

Am I the only one who sees the cyclical way the mustang is progressing? Look back at how the mustang started and how things went, and look at what is happening now.

 

You mean small light car with small V8 grows into a fairly big car with large V8 (64 to 73) then shrinks to a small light car with a small V8 grows into a fairly big car with a slightly bigger V8? (74 to 07)?

 

For what? They killed SVT, killed the LS and are finding progressively more boring cars to put an oval, wing and crosshair on.

Mustang is the only car they have that isn't an also ran, so yes they are trying to make it everything to everyone. See the eleventy billion SE models.

 

No. They always report actual ET/MPH (as they should, IMHO).

Bob

PS....there certainly are some sour grapes on this Forum.

 

LOL. Cute. Perhaps another 1-2 mph, and another .1-.3 in ET. I'll stick by my original prediction that someone will run 11.9x with a stone stock car (putting in right around stock C5 Z06 territory....in a straight line, of course). Whether that lives up to the "obscene expectations" that it had, I couldn't tell you. I like the car, but I won't buy one, mainly because of its tonnage (and to some extent, the price).

Seriously. I think it has to do with a number of things. But mostly, I just think there is.

Bob

 

Yeeeep, that is exactly what I'm talking about although your years are kind of off at the start.

 

Exactly how I feel about Ford. I don't really want to hate Ford. They used to make a lot of interesting stuff. There is just almost nothing in the present day that interests me all about Ford. Besides the Mustang, that seem to have decided to follow the Toyota example of product.

 

I thought it was. People can talk trash on the chassis all they went. The Terminators were nice cars, and when they came out they offered a hell of a lot of power, for a relatively low price. There was also much potential in the car. It was quite a nice piece.

 

I haven't seen anything from 5.0. What did they do with it?

I do believe 1-2 mph is quite possible, assuming it is done in really cool weather on a good track. "Pedaling" a car in any gear will hurt both MPH and ET. The real question is how much did he really have to "pedal" it. I don't know. We'll just have to wait and see.

Bob

 

Not saying Evan Smith isnt a badass (although id love to challenge him to any driving contest), I went a 12.3 with 361 wheel hp (mustang dyno).

I had a lil better 60' though, lol.

If that 60' is legit and he really was peddling the car (and aparently was with that short time), the car should get .2 faster easy but with the same MPH.

 

Well, the fact that they could run as much power as they could through that flexi-flopper chassis and cobbled-together IRS was pretty impressive honestly, yes. Sure, the "LS Mustang" is structurally more solid, at a good weight penalty. The '03 Cobra was also working with a smaller motor (though not that important in the grand scheme of things I suppose...)

 

Bob, as I pointed out in the link I posted, there are a decent number of Mustang guys who are disappointed in the time as well.

Perhaps expectations for this car were too great...especially with Shelby's name on it....

Where the 2003 Cobra was a quantum leap forward in Mustang performance (considering the smack-down the LSx engines were giving Ford), this seems more like an incremental improvement....

 

It is what it is, methinks the SN95 chassis (IIRC) was some 40% stiffer than the old Fox bod chassis and the IRS was the best they could do given the limitations of the platform (however I suppose anything was better than the deathwish 4 link underpinning the live axle cars) what the SN95/Foxbody cars proved was anything can be made to handle with a set of high performance tires.