Most people however will give a rats *** what their performance sports coupe gets. And for a lot of non-car people that just want a fast factory car (that will make up a lot of sales) won't even know what DoD is, so how are they going to know when to activate it and so - on?

Let the enthusiasts disable it and take it out on their own if they have a problem with it, there's nobody saying you can't do that.

Your dreaming...

 

Am I? The 5.3 is set to make 310hp in a truck motor, and 320+hp in car mode. If the RS Camaro gets the 5.3 making 320hp right? That would have it make 20 more hp.
If they add DoD that made some 30-35mpg with 6spd auto and low rear gears, that would be better then what most people are getting in there Civic Hybrids. Read the article someone posted on this very board. The owner said that he was getting about 31mpg, short of teh 45 or so that the EPA said.

now whos dreaming?

 

....and I know someone with a Civic Hybrid that gets 55 MPG, well above what the EPA said. Read my rebutle to that thread. Also, MOST Civic Hybrid owners get above 35 MPG, I hang out on the hybrid message boards and am well aware of what kind of gas milage numbers are actually seen by these owners.

Your either going to compare real world to real world or EPA to EPA. Its apples vrs oranges when you go EPA vrs real world. 45>35 (If they could even get that much with a 5.3 low gears and DoD)

I'm not saying it isn't impressive for a 5.3 V8 to get 35 MPG, I would even consider that to be somewhat miraculous given how low these new Hemi's are getting. But its nowhere near Civic Hybrid territory.

 

If the Camaro is your only car/daily driver then you may be more conscious of the mpg


You can't judge a DoD 5.3L based on the Hemi. Look at the '02 LS1 Camaro, it got 19/28 with a 6 speed and 3.42 gears. If the smaller DoD 5.3L came with 2.73 or 3.08 and a 6 speed I dont think 20/33--21/35 would be unrealistic.

Also the 300C and Magnum are 4000lbs. cars, the next Camaro will likely come in at 3400lbs.

The 300C and Magnum are

 

If they want economy, then let them buy a V6! Save the V8 for the performance enthusiasts that can afford them and that don't care about CAFE standards or fuel economy.

I'm not looking for a daily driver. I'm looking for a badass factory racer.

 

A Camaro w/ a 2.73 final and a .5 sixth gear would be pointless. Sixth would be unusable anything south of 90+mph.

 

What RPM would .5+2.73 be at 70mph?

 

Me either. Thats what I'm saying, that would be a godsend to somebody like me who wants 300+ HP and 30+ MPG.

So, the more than frequent buyer who wants the power and the gas milage is instantly shunned? That certainly won't make a great business case.

I think that the problem would be that there wouldn't be enough power to get it past 90 with gears that low. Like the 6-speed in late model Z28's, you can't get past 130 or so in 6th gear because its so low.

 

from everything I've read about MODERN DoD, I'm all for it!

IN MY OPINION this means that GM will be able to get meaner with it's engines without loosing gas mileage. Think about it. Since we all agree that 25MPG is great for a high performance sports car, then you could shoot for the same gas mileage numbers in 4 cylinder mode while increasing performance across the range.

I mean, with a 7.0L motor you could cruise around getting the gas mileage of a 3.5L powered car Or, since we already know that you can get good mileage with a 5.7L V8 as in the LS1, then what's stopping GM from making a much larger motor? If they only cut it down to 6 cylinder while in DoD, then they could bump it up to a 7.6L

 

DOD only activates at crusing speed, and the exhaust would be routed to hide the noise. It wouldnt kill performance, thats what people dont understand. It cuts red line by a few RPM at the most, but power isnt really given up. If DOD is used, you would not know it even activated. You dont need 400hp just to do 70mph on the highway.

 

That is what displacement on demand will do. Same HP better milage.

 

I'm all for DoD on trucks and things that do work, but IMO it doesn't belong on sports cars. That's EXACTLY why the V6 is offered. For the young people that WANT "that" car, but can't afford the V8 Gas or Insurance. Guess why I have my V6.....

You don't buy a car you CAN'T afford to take care of. Period. If you want a Z28 or SS as a daily driver then be prepared to buy the gas for it and stop shaming the rest of us by being stuck on the side of the road with your thumb stuck out. The LS1 is already pretty damn good with MPG just driving I remember some people quoting 30+mpg. Tell me that's not good for a V8?

We're not shunning the people that just drive the Z28 or SS at all. If it helps sales then brow beat that 65 year old lady into buying that Corvette Z06 she's got the social security to pay for the gas.

 

In the Chrysler 300C you don't notice it and it changes quicker than the blink of an eye.

 

Imagine sitting in your V8 powered RWD Chevrolet Sports Coupe at a light and a 4 cylinder FWD import pulls up beside you.

Import: what's it run?
Chevy: 12 flat
Import: yeah? well, I bet I get better gas mileage!
Chevy: you get 40mpg in that?

 

As much as I don't like this it is a good idea. What if they made DoD optional?

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