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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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Re: Delay on 05 GTO?

I gave a comparison to the mustang to show you don't need 500HP just to sell a car. There are other reasons why people buy cars other than the 1/4, otherwise the F-bodys would be here and the stang would be on hiatus. The GTO has a great interior, nice stereo, IRS (which is better than solid for most everything other than the 1/4), and is a confortable car to ride in(lumbar support, no cat hump, not on the ground). If you are looking for a pure race car you are right the GTO is not for you. If you want a fast car with a great interior and a great ride, then its for you.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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Re: Delay on 05 GTO?

There is an option for the hood scoop delete. Too bad there is no spoiler delete though.

RPO BZJ Hood scoop delete
Don't know what kind of credit you get back.

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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Re: Delay on 05 GTO?

I stand corrected. Imagine, info on the internet that was inaccurate??!! In my defense, my information came directly from the GM media website. Looks like either someone posted something prematurely, or Pontiac thought better of a $2,000 price increase on a car that was not exactly flying off dealers' lots.

The sticker off my A4 reads $33,495 total MSRP.

BTW, I agree with the need for a "wing" delete. The wing on my GTO was removed within an hour. Amazing how different the car looks without it.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Re: Delay on 05 GTO?

I understand the point about the GTO and the Mustang not being the same car, and I realize there's a reason that the GTO is a bit pricier. But honestly, it's a car that's priced too high for what it's trying to do. I think Pontiac wants to try and be some kind of BMW fighter, but a Pontiac is not going to compete with a BMW in the minds of the public any time soon. They can't just come out and charge BMW-like prices. The sales speak for themselves.....when GTOs dipped into the 20s, they were selling like mad. In the mid 30s, they were like **** on a sidewalk. GM doesn't seem to realize that their product is looked on as generally inferior to the competition, and they need a good price to get people in the door. GM is going to need to pay their dues for a while if they want to earn back the public's trust, they can't just jump in to trying to be a premium automaker.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MunchE
I understand the point about the GTO and the Mustang not being the same car, and I realize there's a reason that the GTO is a bit pricier. But honestly, it's a car that's priced too high for what it's trying to do. I think Pontiac wants to try and be some kind of BMW fighter, but a Pontiac is not going to compete with a BMW in the minds of the public any time soon. They can't just come out and charge BMW-like prices. The sales speak for themselves.....when GTOs dipped into the 20s, they were selling like mad. In the mid 30s, they were like **** on a sidewalk. GM doesn't seem to realize that their product is looked on as generally inferior to the competition, and they need a good price to get people in the door. GM is going to need to pay their dues for a while if they want to earn back the public's trust, they can't just jump in to trying to be a premium automaker.

I can't disagree with you about pontiac not being an effective BMW fighter the way things are. There is no way the general public will put the two on the same field in the near future if ever. I rented a new grand prix and I was very unimpressed, it felt quite inexpensive. The goat is definitely far better in quality to it. I don't believe its neccesarily too expensive. Its as expensive as an '02 SS was, but a lot better in most every way. Though a 300 series BMW really isn't all that. It has far less power, and as far as the interior I am not familiar enough with theirs to give an opinion.
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