Cz28.com Car of the Year
12-04-2008, 03:31 PM
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12-04-2008, 03:39 PM
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While I agree that their selection might be suspect, certainly the criteria isn't as subjective.
12-04-2008, 04:33 PM
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I think that CZ28's COTY should be based on one criteria, and one criteria only: the car that we would be most likely to purchase for ourselves.
12-04-2008, 05:19 PM
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12-08-2008, 10:26 AM
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What I'm saying is that their criteria allows them to pick entirely based on subjective measures. Also, the exclusion of models that haven't been updated for the current year bothers me. If nothing cool comes out in a given year, something really awesome from the previous year deserves to take the win.
I think that CZ28's COTY should be based on one criteria, and one criteria only: the car that we would be most likely to purchase for ourselves.
I think that CZ28's COTY should be based on one criteria, and one criteria only: the car that we would be most likely to purchase for ourselves.
If they didn't limit their choices to those that are totally new to the market or have gone through a major model redesign; they would have to consider every vehicle model sold in the U.S. - they would never be done "evaluating".
As far as the subjective measurements go, isn't that how most people make a final decision about buying a car? Don't you think most people buy a new car based on highly subjective impressions such as "looks", how they feel sitting in the car; even how well they like how the controls for the radio are arranged?
Certainly, enthusiasts care about such things as HP, Tq, drag coefficient, 0-60, 60-0, etc, etc, but most people simply don't care about those things.
Objective measurements are fine but only take you so far; after that, it will always be a matter of opinion and MT's opinions are no less valuable than others'.
12-08-2008, 10:27 AM
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Both are great cars but seems to me the C6 is the first among equals.
12-08-2008, 10:38 AM
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Certainly, CZ28 can pick any criteria it wants but with respect to MT, how else would MT pick a COTY?
If they didn't limit their choices to those that are totally new to the market or have gone through a major model redesign; they would have to consider every vehicle model sold in the U.S. - they would never be done "evaluating".
If they didn't limit their choices to those that are totally new to the market or have gone through a major model redesign; they would have to consider every vehicle model sold in the U.S. - they would never be done "evaluating".
As far as the subjective measurements go, isn't that how most people make a final decision about buying a car? Don't you think most people buy a new car based on highly subjective impressions such as "looks", how they feel sitting in the car; even how well they like how the controls for the radio are arranged?
Again, note that my criteria was what we would be most likely to purchase for ourselves. How many CZ28ers have C6 Z06's?
12-08-2008, 11:07 AM
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Coming up with any type of “list” without some stringent prequalification’s (such as being an all new vehicle) would still be an almost impossible task IMHO nor would it ever end the argument; somebody would always be POed that “their” favorite vehicle didn’t get considered.
That's not the kind of subjectiveness I was referring to. I'm talking about overall evaluations for things like "significance", "design", and "engineering". A subjective opinion of the looks, ergonomics, etc. is still based on something concrete, but "significance" is based on nothing more than something the evaluators pulled out of their collective ***.
Even when we disagree with them, the opinion of someone who spends his every working hour involved in the automotive world probably has a more thoughtful/reasoned opinion than most of the masses do.
I've no idea how many CZ28ers have a C6 Z06 but I would assume it’s likely more a matter of “money” than of desire.
12-08-2008, 01:18 PM
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IDK that looks pretty intelligible to me, and seems like you understood it too!! Which is more than I can say for you're retort here, which is actually unintelligible! How about you? Do you ever come into a thread without singing the praises of the great nissan?
12-08-2008, 01:33 PM
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12-08-2008, 01:56 PM
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