CTS-V no longer available with stick?!?!
WOW .."NEW! Engine, 3.0L V6 SIDI DOHC VVT (270 hp [201 kW] @ 7000 rpm, 223 lb-ft of torque [302 N-m] @ 5700 rpm)"270HP is a lot of power for a N/A 3.0L. I wonder how much better the mpg will be from the 3.6L.
Hasn't the Accord been making that kind of power out of a 3L for several years now.
I assume it completely replaces the non-DI 3.6 in the Cadillac lineup. Power is about the same.

Yes I know, I doubt many people would drag-race a CTS-V. I would if I had the dough to buy one and strip it down though!!!
Trust me, I'm not refering to drag racers.
I'm refering to the majority of drivers on the road - half asleep and uninvolved mentally with the task at hand, namely driving the car.
A manual forces a driver to be more aware of the car and the conditions around it, and that's a good thing in my book. We already rely too much on devices instead of our own jusgement when operating too many aspects of a car and the act of driving itself, so in my view the more manuals out there the better.
Of course, they are simply more fun to drive and I'd be lying if I said that wasn't my main motivation.
I would even say a stick is more fun to drive than a stalled up auto. I know some of the auto guys swear by higher stall auto cars, but there is still no comparison. A stalled up auto is way better than a stock convertered car though.
That's a tough one for me... Honestly, slower cars can be more fun sometimes because you can row through the gears and not be going too fast. In a Z06 you get through 1st gear and you're already going 60 and breaking the speed limit on most roads.
We have one vote for lunacy.
somebody on a local board (that is mostly imports) said this yesterday:
"Its more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow... "
I just laughed when I read that.
Oh yeah, he drive's a Miata...
"Its more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow... "
I just laughed when I read that.
Oh yeah, he drive's a Miata...



hmmm.... this give me an idea for a spin off thread. What is more fun: 556HP CTS-V automatic or Cobalt XFE manual.