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Old May 17, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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I didn't realize the LF1 3.0 V6 was going in the CTS.
WOW .."NEW! Engine, 3.0L V6 SIDI DOHC VVT (270 hp [201 kW] @ 7000 rpm, 223 lb-ft of torque [302 N-m] @ 5700 rpm)"

270HP is a lot of power for a N/A 3.0L. I wonder how much better the mpg will be from the 3.6L.
Old May 17, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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I'm thinking this engine has been mentioned before...
but if not, then it deserves a new thread

I'm also wondering how it compares to the LNF in performance and mileage?
Old May 19, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
WOW .."NEW! Engine, 3.0L V6 SIDI DOHC VVT (270 hp [201 kW] @ 7000 rpm, 223 lb-ft of torque [302 N-m] @ 5700 rpm)"

270HP is a lot of power for a N/A 3.0L. I wonder how much better the mpg will be from the 3.6L.
Hasn't the Accord been making that kind of power out of a 3L for several years now.
Old May 19, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AdioSS
I'm thinking this engine has been mentioned before...
but if not, then it deserves a new thread

I'm also wondering how it compares to the LNF in performance and mileage?
Yes, it's the LF1 - it's the base engine in the 2010 LaCrosse and Cadillac SRX and is the optional V6 in the 2010 Equinox.

I assume it completely replaces the non-DI 3.6 in the Cadillac lineup. Power is about the same.
Old May 19, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Hasn't the Accord been making that kind of power out of a 3L for several years now.
You are thinking of the 3.5L that puts out 271HP. 3.0L put out 240HP, so does Fords 3.0L.
Old May 19, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
You are thinking of the 3.5L that puts out 271HP. 3.0L put out 240HP, so does Fords 3.0L.
Yeah, I wasn't totally sure on that. Thanks for the correction.
Old May 19, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Amen!

Automatics are for the lazy and uninterested.

Yet another big thumbs down for GM.
Ask the drag racers if they are lazy and uninterested? Autos dominate drag racing.

Yes I know, I doubt many people would drag-race a CTS-V. I would if I had the dough to buy one and strip it down though!!!
Old May 19, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by WERM
Other than Camaro and Corvette, is there anything remotely fun that GM hasn't killed off?
Is this CTS-V now no longer remotely fun?
Old May 19, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrome383Z
Ask the drag racers if they are lazy and uninterested? Autos dominate drag racing.

Yes I know, I doubt many people would drag-race a CTS-V. I would if I had the dough to buy one and strip it down though!!!

Trust me, I'm not refering to drag racers.

I'm refering to the majority of drivers on the road - half asleep and uninvolved mentally with the task at hand, namely driving the car.

A manual forces a driver to be more aware of the car and the conditions around it, and that's a good thing in my book. We already rely too much on devices instead of our own jusgement when operating too many aspects of a car and the act of driving itself, so in my view the more manuals out there the better.

Of course, they are simply more fun to drive and I'd be lying if I said that wasn't my main motivation.
Old May 19, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Plague
Is this CTS-V now no longer remotely fun?
hmmm.... this give me an idea for a spin off thread. What is more fun: 556HP CTS-V automatic or Cobalt XFE manual.
Old May 19, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrome383Z
Ask the drag racers if they are lazy and uninterested? Autos dominate drag racing.

Yes I know, I doubt many people would drag-race a CTS-V. I would if I had the dough to buy one and strip it down though!!!
I picked up the joking mannerism in your post, but there really is no comparison to an auto versus a stick on the street. A stick is more fun to drive.

I would even say a stick is more fun to drive than a stalled up auto. I know some of the auto guys swear by higher stall auto cars, but there is still no comparison. A stalled up auto is way better than a stock convertered car though.
Old May 19, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
hmmm.... this give me an idea for a spin off thread. What is more fun: 556HP CTS-V automatic or Cobalt XFE manual.
That's a tough one for me... Honestly, slower cars can be more fun sometimes because you can row through the gears and not be going too fast. In a Z06 you get through 1st gear and you're already going 60 and breaking the speed limit on most roads.
Old May 19, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28x
hmmm.... this give me an idea for a spin off thread. What is more fun: 556HP CTS-V automatic or Cobalt XFE manual.
That is great.

Originally Posted by ImportedRoomate
That's a tough one for me... Honestly, slower cars can be more fun sometimes because you can row through the gears and not be going too fast. In a Z06 you get through 1st gear and you're already going 60 and breaking the speed limit on most roads.
We have one vote for lunacy.
Old May 20, 2009 | 01:27 AM
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somebody on a local board (that is mostly imports) said this yesterday:
"Its more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow... "

I just laughed when I read that.

Oh yeah, he drive's a Miata...
Old May 20, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AdioSS
somebody on a local board (that is mostly imports) said this yesterday:
"Its more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow... "

I just laughed when I read that.

Oh yeah, he drive's a Miata...
I think it could be true. But, I think it is even more fun to drive a fast car fast.



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