Just wondering. It takes the 3.9, but I don't know how tight a fit that is (haven't seen one yet). In any case, it would probably weigh about the same, and a V8 would be very cool in a mid-size car.

 

Why try to put all that power in a FWD??? Sounds dumb enough for GM to try.

Strong V-8's need RWD or AWD to have any chance to live up to their potential.

I do think the LSx motors fit in the Colorado engine bay.

A G6 with an LS4 would be in the 3500lb range, I doubt that it could even come close to a 3500lb 2002 Z28 in performance.

 

Well, they did say that an LS2 will fit in the engine bay of the Solstice...

 

The already use the LS4 in multiple FWD applications, and although I don't necessarily think this is the greatest way to move a vehicle, it seems to do well enough for GM to justify it being used in 3 cars. How much does a G6 weigh with the 3.9? I don't think the LS4 would add all that much weight to it.

 

Thats the thing, when GM hears that consumers will accept a high powered FWD car than they will build FWD cause ITS CHEAPER. The consumer loses out in the long run.


I heard about the LS2 fiting also, I cant see the vette or caddy poeple letting that happen. Cant have lowly pontiac spanking vette and caddy ****.

BTW wouldn't the LS4 need a bigger tranny? I think a 3.5LGT G6 weighs 3450lb, I would think the V-8 with bigger tranny would put it in the 3550 or higher.

 

"They" have no idea how "they" will do it. You havent heard anything since "their" initial announcement have you?

Good luck to "them" doing this AND STILL making it the cruisers dream the Solstice is meant to be.

Need more performance? Wait 'til next year, until then go ahead, try to shoe horn the V8 into the Solstice.

 

I don't know if it's C&G castoffs or what, but this board seems to be getting dumber and dumber...no offense.

 

I'd like mine with a 2.4L and 10 lbs of intercooled turbo boost.

Putting a V-8 in it would throw off the balance too much, kinda like a high powered fwd V-8. But wait, they've allready done that...

 

Gee jerry, I noticed all the real cars in your sig are all RWD or AWD. Are you supporting this Midsize V-8 FWD idea??? Seems like your hard earned money says different???

 

Actually when interviewed by Hot Rod Magazine, Mark Reuss was told by the interviewer that GM could leave it to Hot Rod to shoehorn the LS7 into a Solstice, to which Mark replied that they (GM) could help them on that since they already knew a similar sized motor would fit. It has since been speculated that he was referring to the LS2, but we've yet to see any confirmation on that. However, the inference is there that a V8 does fit.

 

Nah, but your reply seemed oblivious to the fact that GM already uses this engine in fwd applications. I don't know/care that it's a fit for G6. You're right, I prefer rwd. But no where does anyone reference such a car as an LS1 Z28 competitor. Mentioning that just seemed like some pointless chest-beating. The "LS1s rule! Everything else sucks!!" chatter seems a bit tired. I apologize if I interpretted it wrong.

 

Looking back at my first thread, that first line had ALOT of sarcasm in it.


I'm not a big fan of the FWD LSx cars either. Should have done them right with RWD.

And the 2002 Z28 comment was meant like, why would they build a LS4 G6 that would have really poor performance compared to a Z28, thinking same size and price, but huge performance gap.

The orginal question was posted as "would this fit", the bad thing is that I bet GM has thought about building it. It makes me sick. They did it with the fullsize, is midsize next? I just think a good motor like the LSx deserves a good RWD platform. People who buy LSx FWD's are encouraging GM to continue to churn out "performance" cars that are substandard.

Before someone says "the GP GXP is the best thing since sliced bread", the car would PERFORM so much better if it were RWD. It would accelerate and handle better than a charger, GADZOOKS BATMAN!

God didn't intend for sports cars to have bigger tires on the front.

 

Thank you for understanding. I realize that this is a Camaro board, but seriously, does every car mentioned have to be a competitor to the Camaro? By the same token, does the knee jerk commentary on every car, even a mid-size sedan, need to be "make it RWD!!"?

I am talking about a FWD family sedan. As far as power is concerned, GM had better be dumb enough to try something because all of their competitors are moving up in horsepower. The lowly Accord comes with more power than the G6 GTP. The Altima SE-R has 260hp. These are the G6's real competitors, and it's important IMO for the car to keep up, both for its own success and for the recovery of Pontiac's damaged performance image.

Given that more power in the FWD G6 is not a dumb, but rather prudent and almost necessary move for GM, I was simply wondering if the LS4 would work. I don't know what the costs are, but I'd imagine it could be cheaper than the 3.6 V6 they originally talked about for a G6 GXP. Also, from a weight standpoint, the car would not be thrown off balance when you consider that 3.9L of cast iron probably does not weigh any less than 5.3L of aluminum. I would also imagine that fuel economy wise, dropping in the V8 would be smarter than boosting power in the already less fuel efficient 3.9L.

Finally, a V8 has a cache that would really boost this car's performance image. V8 engines are one of the few things that most customers still find more appealing in American cars. Look at the Hemi. People who would never consider a Dodge are buying them for that V8 rumble. A V8 in the G6, with that distinctive samll-block burble, would give the car a unique advantage in the faceless mid-size sedan market.

Having said all this, I really don't know if it's practical from an engineering standpoint, which was really the reason for this post. From the hypothetical standpoint, I already see it as a viable and even practical way to produce a rather needed high-performance G6.

 

You are right it may be wrong to campare it to a camaro, its hard with them being same size, weight, price. I posted awhile back the the G6 GXP was kinda sucky for coming to market with less power then the Altima SE-r. And it weighs more. It actually has less power than a regular Altima SE that starts at around $23-24K.

I dunno about a V-8 though, nothing says GAS sucker more than V-8, okay maybe SUV might be the first thing that comes to mind. But V-8 is upthere. I think the Detroit newpaper got 15 mpg in the GP GXP. I know the 5.3 is rated higher in the impy than the 3.9 But my money is on the 6 until the 8 with DoD can prove itself in real worl MPG.

My answer for the G6 GXP is a turbo 2.8 HF V-6. Output in 260-280 range.
But thats too expensive for pontiac. I hope the 300 HP 3.6 HF six shows up soon to help things out. Not sure of the DOHC will fit under the hood though.

The G6 GXP is too close in price to the mustang gt not to have more power. They are only $400 apart. I still dont know if the current G6 tranny can handle the V-8, anyone know which tranny it has.

 

Size weight and price are important, but do not always dictate what segment a car is in. The Camry is the same size weight and price as a Mustang, but it sure as hell isn't competing with it.

The G6, and GP GXP for that matter, are completely different cars than the Camaro with a completely different purpose. The G6 and GP are supposed to be first and foremost comfortable, affordable family cars that provide a bit of performance and style to boot. The Camaro, was, and forever will be an affordable performance car that can carry 4 people in a pinch. Insurance costs alone put Camaro in a different world than the G6 and GP, even if they have powerful engines.

As far as V8 fuel economy is concerned, our LS1 Camaro did consistantly better than our GTP, and I know many people on here have steller fuel economy even with mods. The LS4 is of the same basic design and does have great fuel economy. It's ridiculous when magazines take totally new cars, perform 0-60 and 1/4 mile tests with it, and then report their observed fuel economy as if it means something. In any case, people seem to be lapping up the Hemi, and those cars actually are gas guzzlers with sub 20mpg ratings (pretty unacceptable for modern passenger cars when you stop and think about it).

I wouldn't mind a 300 hp 3.6 engine, save the fact that they already have this V8 sitting here. Why does GM need to have so many engines doing the same thing? They've already invested in the 5.3L, so why not spread out the costs a bit rather than putting more engineering $$ into boosting the 3.6L? The G6 GTP has the HT65-E, which makes me think that the beefed up HT65-E HD from the GXP and Impy SS should fit in pretty easily.