Cobalt SS is a big car!
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
Originally Posted by 305fan
I wouldn't trust MSN or Yahoo.
Its odd Chevy says that but I have two magazine road tests of 4 door Coblats and they are 2800-2900lbs. They take the cars to scales and weight them.
Its odd Chevy says that but I have two magazine road tests of 4 door Coblats and they are 2800-2900lbs. They take the cars to scales and weight them.
GMfleet has 3,216lbs as well. As does intellichoice, autochannel, edmunds, and a bunch of other places.
It does seem too heavy, and i didn't believe it at first, but now i don't know. Way too many places have that figure listed to be a simple typo error.
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
Originally Posted by Gold_Rush
MSN and yahoo are just two.
GMfleet has 3,216lbs as well. As does intellichoice, autochannel, edmunds, and a bunch of other places.
It does seem too heavy, and i didn't believe it at first, but now i don't know. Way too many places have that figure listed to be a simple typo error.
GMfleet has 3,216lbs as well. As does intellichoice, autochannel, edmunds, and a bunch of other places.
It does seem too heavy, and i didn't believe it at first, but now i don't know. Way too many places have that figure listed to be a simple typo error.
So your ignoring GM Canada then?
Yahoo and MSN copied the exact same faulty GM USA data. So it doesn't matter how many sites you quote---if they are using the GM USA data that is wrong.
Think about it. You even think its too heavy. 3200lbs for a compact? Thats beyond heavy---thats dangerously obese!
Car and Driver took the cars to scales and did weigh them.
Curb weight: 2900 lb--an LS , with automatic, fully loaded.
Heres some websites that back my claim:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/05pursuit.htm
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/chev...289/specs.html
With just the printed word it can be hard to beleive or too easy. But the fact is printing errors do exist
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure no one will hesitate), but I thought GVW was quoted with passengers. And don't they say each "passenger" weighs 150lbs.? Thereby, a 2800lb. 4-passenger car would actually show a 3400lb. GVW (2800 + 4 x 150 = 3400). Even if that's not the case, maybe we should actually look at how the cars are being weighed in each instance, rather than what they weigh.
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
Originally Posted by RoMaD
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure no one will hesitate), but I thought GVW was quoted with passengers. And don't they say each "passenger" weighs 150lbs.? Thereby, a 2800lb. 4-passenger car would actually show a 3400lb. GVW (2800 + 4 x 150 = 3400). Even if that's not the case, maybe we should actually look at how the cars are being weighed in each instance, rather than what they weigh.
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
Originally Posted by centric
Cars in general are much taller today. Compare a 3rd gen Camaro to a 4th gen to a new Mustang. The Mustang looks like an SUV in comparison, and even the 4th gen is noticably taller than the 3rd.
An unfortunate phenomenon, in my opinion. I'd rather have the low CG and low-slung look. Seeing a 3rd gen Camaro convertible going through traffic with the top down is almost shocking these days--it shows how far we've progressed back towards tall, ungainly boxes.
An unfortunate phenomenon, in my opinion. I'd rather have the low CG and low-slung look. Seeing a 3rd gen Camaro convertible going through traffic with the top down is almost shocking these days--it shows how far we've progressed back towards tall, ungainly boxes.
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
Originally Posted by centric
Cars in general are much taller today. Compare a 3rd gen Camaro to a 4th gen to a new Mustang. The Mustang looks like an SUV in comparison, and even the 4th gen is noticably taller than the 3rd.
An unfortunate phenomenon, in my opinion. I'd rather have the low CG and low-slung look. Seeing a 3rd gen Camaro convertible going through traffic with the top down is almost shocking these days--it shows how far we've progressed back towards tall, ungainly boxes.
An unfortunate phenomenon, in my opinion. I'd rather have the low CG and low-slung look. Seeing a 3rd gen Camaro convertible going through traffic with the top down is almost shocking these days--it shows how far we've progressed back towards tall, ungainly boxes.
My once "mid-sized" little car looks small compared to a new Corolla. I'm a "little guy"; I don't need a damned hotel on wheels to get to and fro.
I couldn't agree more on the low and sleek comment, 'tis a rare thing these days; hopefully it'll make a comeback.
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
LOL. In contrast to that, take a "mid-sized" car from the 70s....such as a Malibu or Torino....and compare their physical exterior size/weight to the size/weight of most "mid-sized" cars today.
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
I test drove a Cobalt SS Saturday, in addition to several other vehicles, and didn't find the size overbearing. Overall, I found it to be a nice enough vehicle, but perhaps not something I would be interested in.
For one, the pricing escalates fast. I've seen several on dealer lots, and even with Employee Pricing, they still are a nice chunk over $20k. I guess dealer's are loading them up to pad profits.
Secondly, while the car is deceptively quick (noticeably slower than an SRT-4, at least clear SOTP difference), I had gripes with the exhaust note and shifter feel, as well as blind spots. Most of the interior trim seemed nice and on par with cars in this range (much better than entry level Cobalt). The handling seemed sharp and the ride was certainly on the rougher side.
If I were shopping for a car like this, I'd spend the extra few grand (spend $30 or so more a month), and go with a WRX. I had the same reaction to the SRT-4. For this segment, it just seems like a more rounded and polished car.
This same day I also participated in the C&D/R&T Editor-for-a-Day event, which as it turns out, was sponsored by Cadillac. The cars included STS V6 vs. BMW 530i and CTS vs. Lexus ES330. I found it to be a Cadillac sweep, with the Lexus losing points for FWD and BMW not as impressive as the STS. It was the first time I had participated in such an event, and it was fun despite getting very limited seat time (1 ~30 sec lap in each).
For one, the pricing escalates fast. I've seen several on dealer lots, and even with Employee Pricing, they still are a nice chunk over $20k. I guess dealer's are loading them up to pad profits.
Secondly, while the car is deceptively quick (noticeably slower than an SRT-4, at least clear SOTP difference), I had gripes with the exhaust note and shifter feel, as well as blind spots. Most of the interior trim seemed nice and on par with cars in this range (much better than entry level Cobalt). The handling seemed sharp and the ride was certainly on the rougher side.
If I were shopping for a car like this, I'd spend the extra few grand (spend $30 or so more a month), and go with a WRX. I had the same reaction to the SRT-4. For this segment, it just seems like a more rounded and polished car.
This same day I also participated in the C&D/R&T Editor-for-a-Day event, which as it turns out, was sponsored by Cadillac. The cars included STS V6 vs. BMW 530i and CTS vs. Lexus ES330. I found it to be a Cadillac sweep, with the Lexus losing points for FWD and BMW not as impressive as the STS. It was the first time I had participated in such an event, and it was fun despite getting very limited seat time (1 ~30 sec lap in each).
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
Car and Driver just tested the Cobalt SS supercharged coupe and it had a curb weight of 2911 lbs. and ran a 14.4 @100mph. It kind of ticks me off that the new supercharged cobalts come with intercoolers but my grand prix along with all of the other supercharged gps dont.
Re: Cobalt SS is a big car!
Originally Posted by centric
Cars in general are much taller today. Compare a 3rd gen Camaro to a 4th gen to a new Mustang. The Mustang looks like an SUV in comparison, and even the 4th gen is noticably taller than the 3rd.
An unfortunate phenomenon, in my opinion. I'd rather have the low CG and low-slung look. Seeing a 3rd gen Camaro convertible going through traffic with the top down is almost shocking these days--it shows how far we've progressed back towards tall, ungainly boxes.
An unfortunate phenomenon, in my opinion. I'd rather have the low CG and low-slung look. Seeing a 3rd gen Camaro convertible going through traffic with the top down is almost shocking these days--it shows how far we've progressed back towards tall, ungainly boxes.
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