Automotive News / Industry / Future Vehicle Discussion Automotive news and discussion about upcoming vehicles

Chevy says Camaro is coming back?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:26 AM
  #1  
Z28x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 10,285
From: Albany, NY
Chevy says Camaro is coming back?

From Autoweek.com
Camaro coming?

Faced with the imminent introduction of an already highly praised all-new 2005 Mustang this fall and nothing in the showroom to do battle with it, General Motors is eyeing a return to the pony car wars. So says Chevrolet general manager Brent Dewar when asked about plans for a future Mustang fighter. Says Dewar: “We’re working on that. We’ll have a competitor.”
That is a good sign

Last edited by Z28x; Jun 3, 2004 at 08:33 AM.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:31 AM
  #2  
guionM's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 13,713
From: The Golden State
Remember when I mentioned that the Ste. Therese demolition should loosen GM up as far as talking about a replacement to the Camaro?
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:33 AM
  #3  
PaperTarget's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,029
Notice it says "competitor" not Camaro. Makes me wonder what they're thinking of doing. Like others have mentioned, I wonder if it will even be called Camaro. At least this is good news. Now, how about an official date...
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:38 AM
  #4  
Z28x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 10,285
From: Albany, NY
Originally posted by PaperTarget
Notice it says "competitor" not Camaro. Makes me wonder what they're thinking of doing. Like others have mentioned, I wonder if it will even be called Camaro. At least this is good news. Now, how about an official date...
Search guionM's old posts. GM can't use the "C" word until after summer 2005
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:51 AM
  #5  
PaperTarget's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,029
I guess the real question is, should they use the Camaro name? Be objective and give reasons for both sides of the arguement. I'll give one reason for both sides of the arguement to start it off.

For (keeping the same name):

a recognized performance car name

Against (meaning using a different name):

a known ergonomic nightmare for many people
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:04 AM
  #6  
Z28x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 10,285
From: Albany, NY
Originally posted by PaperTarget
I guess the real question is, should they use the Camaro name? Be objective and give reasons for both sides of the arguement. I'll give one reason for both sides of the arguement to start it off.

For (keeping the same name):

a recognized performance car name

Against (meaning using a different name):

a known ergonomic nightmare for many people
Should Ford have kept the Mustang name for their new RWD coupe?

One stereotype/misconception I used to get when told my parents I wanted a Camaro was "jane doe at work a an 84 camaro and it was bad in the snow, Camaros hydroplane in the rain, your uncle had a 1972 and.......bla bla bla". For some reason they couldn't under stand that I was getting a 100% different car with 30yr. newer tire tech and traction control. That is why I'm all for the V6 Camaro getting AWD and GM advertising the hell out of it.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:24 AM
  #7  
Ed 2001 SS's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 499
From: Miami, Fl USA
A buddy of mine went to a local Cadillac dealer to look at the new CTSv last week. He currently owns a 2002 Tahoe and a 2002 Camaro SS Convertible (which listed for 39K when he bought it).

The salesman approached him and started talking about the CTSv. He then asked "What kind of car do you drive?"

My buddy responds "a Camaro"

Salesman: "Well, when you have some more time maybe we can take it for a test drive..." and walks away.

This brings me to my point:

Con:

Camaro has some image problems in certain sectors that GMs lack of advertising has allowed to continue.

Pro:

The Camaro name is well recognized and evokes fond memories among millions of past and present owners.

Starting out first and foremost with the right product, creative advertising (how many more 4 wheel drifinting in the dusty desert commercials will we be subjected to??) will be able to maximize the value of the name. Those who look down on the Camaro name are probably in the market for a BMW anyway.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:41 AM
  #8  
Ramune's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 288
From: Minnesota
Originally posted by Z28x
Search guionM's old posts. GM can't use the "C" word until after summer 2005
Even though I know better, how about the "F" word?
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:48 AM
  #9  
Chris 96 WS6's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 2,801
From: Nashville, TN
Originally posted by PaperTarget
I guess the real question is, should they use the Camaro name? Be objective and give reasons for both sides of the arguement. I'll give one reason for both sides of the arguement to start it off.

For (keeping the same name):

a recognized performance car name

Against (meaning using a different name):

a known ergonomic nightmare for many people
I'm pretty sure this has been done to death already on this board a few weeks ago.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:53 AM
  #10  
91_z28_4me's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,600
From: Pewee Valley, KY
Originally posted by Ramune
Even though I know better, how about the "F" word?
The evidence points to a possible C word and no F word
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 10:16 AM
  #11  
Z28x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 10,285
From: Albany, NY
Originally posted by Ramune
Even though I know better, how about the "F" word?
I assume the "F" word is in the same boat as "C", but I'm not sure about the "T&A" combo since that was a licenced name. Anyone have any info on that? guionM?
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 10:26 AM
  #12  
PaperTarget's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,029
Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
I'm pretty sure this has been done to death already on this board a few weeks ago.
No doubt, but it's still an interesting topic.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 10:28 AM
  #13  
PaperTarget's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,029
Originally posted by Z28x
Should Ford have kept the Mustang name for their new RWD coupe?
Ford hasn't stopped making Mustang since it's inception in 1964. I think it's a slightly different situation with the Camaro.
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 10:35 AM
  #14  
guionM's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 13,713
From: The Golden State
Originally posted by Z28x
I assume the "F" word is in the same boat as "C", but I'm not sure about the "T&A" combo since that was a licenced name. Anyone have any info on that? guionM?
The Camaro & Firebird had an exclusive agreement to be made at Ste. Therese, and have the same issues to work through.

However, Chevrolet very openly wants a Camaro replacement while Pontiac isn't intrested in another Firebird. That could change at the last minute, and Pontiac gets a badged engineered Camaro, but with the Solstice, the GTO, and Pontiac running from the "Firebird crowd" at full gallop, it's probally delusional at best to expect Firebird to return. The sales of the 4th gen 'Bird probally don't help.

Trans Am is a racing series, and GM had to pay a set amount of money per car to the owners of the series for use of the name. You can probally bet the farm that now that GM has stopped, there's no way in h*ll they are going to do that again. They attempted to stop back in 1982, but had to backtrack because of of negative feedback (this was coming off the Firebird Trans Am's heady days when it was outselling every other performance car in the US).
Old Jun 3, 2004 | 10:36 AM
  #15  
Z284ever's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 16,176
From: Chicagoland IL
If there is no retraction within the next 72 hours, we're on a roll.........



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.