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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Unhappy Chevy RWD coupe MAY OR MAY NOT BE CALLED CAMARO??!!!

Hi guy's,

Let me first start by saying that I'm a "Lurker" I don't post much but I'm here at least once a day.
That being said what concerns me is what was stated in a recent post. I beleive that it was guionM who said that the new Chevrolet RWD coupe in the works may or may not be called Camaro.
RP had requested that we send photo's to show our enthusiasm for the Camaro brand. To me this all seems to point to yet another power struggle within GM.
Is RP in a situation where he is trying to justify to all the higher ups calling a new Chevy RWD coupe Camaro.
Is there really a chance that whatever car does EVENTUALLY come from Chevy that it won't be called Camaro?

I love my SS and have no plans to sell it or trade it for a anything but a new Camaro. Like RP say's I do have faith I just wish we knew a little more.When everything is said and done it should be very interesting to find out the whole story.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Correctly assessed: It's the NAME not the CAR that's the issue (I think it's obvious by now to everyone that the car is in the works).

Wrongly assesed: That it's a power struggle that's to blame.

Without going too far (again) in explaining it, there's very complex and pretty political reasons behind this that run the gauntlet from unnecessarily ruffling feathers, to personal (if not leagally binding) agreements, to shortsighted actions done 17 years ago under the best intentions, to a plant that's become a big headache to everyone.

It's much easier and simplier for GM to name the car something else (although it's designed to assume the name in question). There's a move underway to convince certain people that the (car name here) name is just as important as the car itself, and that a way should be found to use the name.

I posted a pretty detailed story on it and went into detail (alot of detail) as to what's going on, and there was still a few parts I didn't mention, and unfortunately can't (and still keep getting the info I get).

Just let it suffice to say that the current GM management seems to have inherited all this, and seem to be trying to find a way through it, (so don't blame them).
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by guionM
... There's a move underway to convince certain people that the (car name here) name is just as important as the car itself, and that a way should be found to use the name...
And perhaps some of the reasoning behind a recent request to send GM photos showing why that unnamed car is important to us.

The bottom line? It's going to cost GM money to buy-back the use of that name. If GM can be convinced that using that name will be more profittable than another name, they'll make the financial investment neccessary to see it done.

We just need to show GM how much we really care.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by jg95z28
And perhaps some of the reasoning behind a recent request to send GM photos showing why that unnamed car is important to us.

The bottom line? It's going to cost GM money to buy-back the use of that name. If GM can be convinced that using that name will be more profittable than another name, they'll make the financial investment neccessary to see it done.

We just need to show GM how much we really care.
It's not that GM has to buy back the name (they own the rights, and can use it any way they like). It's using the name without rubbing a raw, sore spot with some people who can make things difficult (or expensive).

GM could very easily just dictate it, and do it, and they would have every right to. But it's the potential for payback that's causing pause.

I'm sure everyone can work something out, and that's what I suspect the effort's being devoted to right now. That's as far as I can go in talking about this.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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I personally just want to see a damned performance coupe from Chevy. I would LOVE to see the C***** come back, but I just want to see Chevy get back in the game. GM---give us an INEXPENSIVE PERFORMANCE COUPE AND SOON!
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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My last few posts in here have been rants over this very subject. I will be out of college and ready to purchase my first “new” car around 2007 or 2008.

So I’m just going to state it very simply this time for every GM executive to plainly read.

I PROMISE NOT TO BUY THE CHEVY RWD COUPE IF IT’S NOT CALLED CAMARO AND I WILL BUY A NEW MUSTANG.

However I do promise you will sell at least one of these cars if it is named Camaro. I know no other way to show my support. I drive a 4th gen ever day and swear by it. I will never sell it.

So GM find a way to do make it happen. The name means almost more than the car itself.

Red Planet if I write a profession well written letter to GM or you would it make any difference at all? You know I wanted to do that mass letter months back but I never got much of a response around here. But what if I personally wrote one? Also if I put some effort into getting that mass letter put together would that help right now? I will have about 4 days of free time next week during spring break where all I have to do is go to work a few hours a day. I could devote time into a letter then.

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Wrongly assesed: That it's a power struggle that's to blame.

Maybe I should have been clearer. I kinda meant that RP and others have seem to have inherited the burden of trying to make the business case for the use of the name Camaro. ie trying to convince others that the possible penalty that may come from use of the name is going to be worth it.

There's a move underway to convince certain people that the (car name here) name is just as important as the car itself, and that a way should be found to use the name.


uummm yep what you said.

For what it's worth the name is just as important as the car. I'm almost afraid to ask but what else could they call it?
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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To me, the name matter as much as a car.

Show me a clean, powerful, attractive, sweet '07 Chevy X. Call it a Camaro, and I will beg, borrow and steal to get it (hell, half the reason I'm buying a house right now is to get a goddamned 2 car garage for the 30th and plan ahead for the, uh, '07 "Camaro" ). Call it a Chevelle, and I'll look at it, take one for a test drive, remark its a wonderful car, then hop on eBay and find something in an '89-'90 IROC or LS1 Formula Hawk to take a spot next to the 30th...

If there is never another Camaro, I will never buy another NEW GM car. I'm enjoying my 3 year old Grand Prix so much, it will take A LOT to get this cheapskate, 24 year old banker to ante up the premium price for a new product. I want to support the automaker I love, but they need to give me a reason to.

Otherwise, when this GP is done I'll be in line for another off lease GP someone else took the depreciation hit on!
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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If GM comes out with an awesome performance car that isnt a camaro... thats like saying they ditched the camaro because it sucked or something. People who dont have a clue what actually happened might assume that.... and that would be a bad thing for the camaro, even though GM probably wouldnt care since they arent making them anymore. ( i feel like im babbling, i doubt I got my point across... )
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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As I mentioned above.... If they didn't use the Camaro name, what do you guys think they would call it?
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by phantasm99
As I mentioned above.... If they didn't use the Camaro name, what do you guys think they would call it?
FAILURE.
Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Too many people want a new Camaro to not call it that. I want it like everyone else. Depending on how it ends up I might not buy a brand new GM car ever either. I'll still buy GM just not a new one. The Camaro situation will dictate if I drive a brand new Colorado off the dealer lot or a slightly used one from someone's driveway.
Old Mar 9, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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If GM needs to ask this question, they should just stick to what they know(fleet cars, and ho-hum trucks).
Old Mar 9, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by 3rdGenNut
If GM needs to ask this question, they should just stick to what they know(fleet cars, and ho-hum trucks).
That's not the issue.

Read my above posts.
Old Mar 9, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by phantasm99
As I mentioned above.... If they didn't use the Camaro name, what do you guys think they would call it?
Could be why all the Chevelle rumours wont die....



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