Chevy Camaro resembles the Chevy Volt
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I love the new Camaro styling. I saw it in person at the NYC autoshow and I want one, no question about it. BUT I don't want to pay $4 for a gallon of gas. Let's face it, if gasoline was $50 a gallon we would STILL HAVE to buy it no matter what they're chargin for it. I think everyone is in agreement a cleaner future, reduce if not eliminate our oil depency on the middle east.
IF the Camaro had something else under the hood other than a gas powered engine, BUT could still perform just as strong if not stronger with some other alternative fuel source, or battery operated self charging entity would everyone still buy it? I think so. I would. I applaud Chevy for at least trying to make a cool looking battery charged car "The Volt".
My biggest beef, is why the hell do so many of these DAMN people drive these gas guzzling 18mpg (if that) SUVs and Hummers? WHY is it necessary I REALLY don't see the need? I see hundreds of them EVERY day sitting in traffic on the way to work, WHY? And there ALWAYS just one passenger. WHY do they buy them? Just so they could put more crap in their cars?
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Even if Al Gore is a hypocrite, the dvd was very shocking. The undeniable damage wev'e done is there. The physical photos and proof compared photos from 1960 and then the same area to 2006 and it will blow your freakin mind.
IF the Camaro had something else under the hood other than a gas powered engine, BUT could still perform just as strong if not stronger with some other alternative fuel source, or battery operated self charging entity would everyone still buy it? I think so. I would. I applaud Chevy for at least trying to make a cool looking battery charged car "The Volt".
My biggest beef, is why the hell do so many of these DAMN people drive these gas guzzling 18mpg (if that) SUVs and Hummers? WHY is it necessary I REALLY don't see the need? I see hundreds of them EVERY day sitting in traffic on the way to work, WHY? And there ALWAYS just one passenger. WHY do they buy them? Just so they could put more crap in their cars?
On the other topic:
Even if Al Gore is a hypocrite, the dvd was very shocking. The undeniable damage wev'e done is there. The physical photos and proof compared photos from 1960 and then the same area to 2006 and it will blow your freakin mind.
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My biggest beef, is why the hell do so many of these DAMN people drive these gas guzzling 18mpg (if that) SUVs and Hummers? WHY is it necessary I REALLY don't see the need? I see hundreds of them EVERY day sitting in traffic on the way to work, WHY? And there ALWAYS just one passenger. WHY do they buy them? Just so they could put more crap in their cars?
On the other topic:
Even if Al Gore is a hypocrite, the dvd was very shocking. The undeniable damage wev'e done is there. The physical photos and proof compared photos from 1960 and then the same area to 2006 and it will blow your freakin mind.
Even if Al Gore is a hypocrite, the dvd was very shocking. The undeniable damage wev'e done is there. The physical photos and proof compared photos from 1960 and then the same area to 2006 and it will blow your freakin mind.
"Documentaries" can use visual images and soundbites clipped together in such a way as to make a powerful statement seem to be true, even if it isn't. The "documentaries" by Michael Moore were good examples of this. Hell, there was a video put out by some of the 9/11 conspiracy loonies that showed some pretty intriguing imagery all pieced together to make their idea seem somewhat less insane, but it has been pretty thoroughly debunked (and I hope I am forgiven for even mentioning it here
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My biggest beef, is why the hell do so many of these DAMN people drive these gas guzzling 18mpg (if that) SUVs and Hummers? WHY is it necessary I REALLY don't see the need? I see hundreds of them EVERY day sitting in traffic on the way to work, WHY? And there ALWAYS just one passenger. WHY do they buy them? Just so they could put more crap in their cars?
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Since you mention "wicked cool" in 2 posts, seem over sold on the "greenhouse effect" blather, and are oblivious to the fact that it'e going to take fuel reaching $4 per gallon just to sell the Volt outside of Northern California and the richer sections of Los Angeles, and have no idea that GM (like Toyota) is likely to lose money on each one they sell (making these things are more expensive than conventional cars), I'd say you're still in high school, or exceedingly idealistic.
I live in California, and I care about the enviroment as much as anyone else (except the granola-eating, anti-meat, anti-fur, anti-everything treehuggers). I'm urked when people remove pollution equptment from their cars just to get 5 more horsepower. To this day I don't understand why people buy a Tahoe or Suburban and burn up gallons of gas when they probally need nothing more than an Equinox or a Magnum, or why the Navigator was a better seller than the more efficient and just as luxurious Aviator.
But at the same time, I understand that cars today put out only 2% of the pollution they put out just 30 years ago. The Hemlock Society removed sucking car fumes as a way to commit suicide (you'll get grossly sick well before you die). Chevrolet's old LS1 engine qualified as a Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle (ULEV), meaning it produced far less emissions than government standard. That very same engine in the Camaro ran 28 mpg in a Corvette. More than most Japanese V6s. Ford is selling a version of the Escort.....right NOW.... that puts out just as little emissions as the Prius. Ford, again right NOW, is selling TWO hybrids (Escape & Mariner) with a hybrid sedan around the corner.
Prius is simpley a public relations car. It doesn't get the best fuel economy. It doesn't put out the least pollution (both titles belong to Ford!). But, Prius is getting all the press while Ford's better and more useful hybrids gather dust on lots, meanwhiole the company has to deal with a reputation as being one of those out of touch American companies, while Toyota gets to sell V6 vehicles that get worse fuel economy and pollute more than the V8s we buy here.
I like the Volt, and while I don't think it's "wicked cool", I think it's an idea that should reach showrooms. But I'm also aware that these will be essentially specialty cars that are on the market for PR purposes, since electric cars are far more expensive than conventional ones.
I live in California, and I care about the enviroment as much as anyone else (except the granola-eating, anti-meat, anti-fur, anti-everything treehuggers). I'm urked when people remove pollution equptment from their cars just to get 5 more horsepower. To this day I don't understand why people buy a Tahoe or Suburban and burn up gallons of gas when they probally need nothing more than an Equinox or a Magnum, or why the Navigator was a better seller than the more efficient and just as luxurious Aviator.
But at the same time, I understand that cars today put out only 2% of the pollution they put out just 30 years ago. The Hemlock Society removed sucking car fumes as a way to commit suicide (you'll get grossly sick well before you die). Chevrolet's old LS1 engine qualified as a Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle (ULEV), meaning it produced far less emissions than government standard. That very same engine in the Camaro ran 28 mpg in a Corvette. More than most Japanese V6s. Ford is selling a version of the Escort.....right NOW.... that puts out just as little emissions as the Prius. Ford, again right NOW, is selling TWO hybrids (Escape & Mariner) with a hybrid sedan around the corner.
Prius is simpley a public relations car. It doesn't get the best fuel economy. It doesn't put out the least pollution (both titles belong to Ford!). But, Prius is getting all the press while Ford's better and more useful hybrids gather dust on lots, meanwhiole the company has to deal with a reputation as being one of those out of touch American companies, while Toyota gets to sell V6 vehicles that get worse fuel economy and pollute more than the V8s we buy here.
I like the Volt, and while I don't think it's "wicked cool", I think it's an idea that should reach showrooms. But I'm also aware that these will be essentially specialty cars that are on the market for PR purposes, since electric cars are far more expensive than conventional ones.
No one wants to pay that much. Also, you technically don't have to buy gasoline even if it is $50 a gallon. Take the bus, move closer to work/school. If you don't want to "have to" buy gas, don't live out in suburbia. No one make you live so far away from the places you have to drive to.
They are very convenient, carry a lot of people and cargo. They have good ground clearance and 4x4 means you probably won't get stuck in snow or mud. They make drivers feel safer. People buy them because they can afford them and the gas. Once gas prices go up and the economy dips that might all change. They might be a waste of money, but that is what people do in the wolds biggest debtor nation.
Last edited by Meccadeth; Mar 14, 2007 at 10:27 AM.
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