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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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I hope this only happened because of some freak conditions. I mean, it did take three entire weeks for the fire to start after a collision.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=23263

Three weeks after a side-impact crash test on May 12, the Volt caught fire while parked in the NHTSA testing center

U.S. government safety regulators are conducting an investigation into the safety of lithium batteries in plug-in electric vehicles as a result of a Chevrolet Volt fire earlier this year.

Back in May, General Motor Co.'s Chevrolet Volt underwent a series of tests at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) facility in Wisconsin. Three weeks after a side-impact crash test on May 12, the Volt caught fire while parked in the testing center.

The fire was serious enough to burn other vehicles parked nearby, according to sources close to the talks who have requested to stay anonymous because the investigation is not yet public.


The fire has prompted an investigation of the safety of lithium batteries used in plug-in electric vehicles such as the Volt and Nissan's Leaf. Lithium batteries can catch fire if the internal cells or the battery case are pierced by steel or another ferrous metal, making the batteries a potential problem in car crashes. However, the batteries are usually heavily protected to prevent this from occurring.

Nevertheless, the NHTSA is looking into the safety because U.S. President Barack Obama is looking to put 1 million electric vehicles on the roads by 2015, and if there are any issues with these batteries, it wants to find it sooner rather than later.

Regulators have requested information about lithium batteries used from GM, Nissan, and Ford, and others who currently sell or plan to sell electric vehicles in the future.

GM defended the Volt after the fire, saying that the EV's battery, which is supplied by LG Chem Ltd., pose no greater threat than conventional cars. It added that GM has certain safety procedures for the Volt and the handling of its battery after an accident, and if these procedures would have been followed, the fire wouldn't have occurred.

"There are safety procedures for conventional cars," said Greg Martin, GM spokesman. "As we develop new technology, we need to ensure that safety protocols match the technology."

Even though the fire occurred three weeks after the side-impact crash, Munro said a small piercing of the battery can lead to a reaction days or weeks later.

The Wisconsin fire, however, is not the only EV fire that has occurred recently. NHTSA also sent investigators to Mooresville, North Carolina after a residential garage, which contained a charging Volt, caught fire. The investigation is ongoing.

"As manufacturers continue to develop vehicles of any kind -- electric, gasoline or diesel -- it is critical that they take the necessary steps to ensure the safety of drivers and first responders both during and after a crash," said NHTSA in an email statement on Friday. "Based on the available data, NHTSA does not believe the Volt or other electric vehicles are at a greater risk of fire than gasoline-powered vehicles. In fact, all vehicles -- both electric and gasoline-powered -- have some risk of fire in the event of a serious crash."

Katherine Zachary, spokeswoman for Nissan's U.S. unit, added that the Nissan Leaf hasn't had any reports of a fire. Over 8,000 Leafs are on U.S. roads today.

"The Nissan Leaf battery pack has been designed with multiple safety systems in place to help ensure its safety in the real world," said Zachary. "All of our systems have been thoroughly tested to ensure real-world performance."
Old Nov 12, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 02:21 PM
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wow... guess we might see some serious stuff on the news about these fires. makes ya wonder how bad they'll blow this thing out of proportion
Old Nov 12, 2011 | 02:26 PM
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Uh oh...
Old Nov 12, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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So if you get in an accident in your Volt and you don't dispose of the batteries properly right away you're screwed! Someone think of the junkyards!
Old Nov 12, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Chevrolet Volt Fire Leads to NHTSA Investigation of Lithium Batteries

How many gasoline cars caught fire after being in an accident this week alone? I'm sure it was dozens of them but you don't hear about that in the national news.
Old Nov 12, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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How many gasoline cars caught fire after being in an accident this week alone? I'm sure it was dozens of them but you don't hear about that in the national news.
Well that is the point. Electric vehicles like the Volt are in their infancy. They make up an insignificant number of vehicles on the road. Statistically, if they have a higher rate of risk of fire in an accident, then there will be trouble when electric vehicle become commonplace.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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I don't see the issue. They didn't handle the battery packs properly after the test. Working as designed. I am sure they just rolled it into their parking lot and let it sit after the test.

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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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I'm more concerned with the second fire mentioned in the news article. Your garage burning down overnight because you were just charging your Volt is not a good thing.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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I question whether or not the car was weather proof after the test.
Any number of things could have happened after the test that will NEVER happen in real life.

And regarding the second report; I wonder if that was a charger issue and not a Volt issue.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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GM says government did NOT properly take care of the car after the test.

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...t-fire-gm-says
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Re: Chevrolet Volt Fire Leads to NHTSA Investigation of Lithium Batteries

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GM says government did NOT properly take care of the car after the test.

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...t-fire-gm-says
That is another point. Who is really going to dispose of these cars properly after a crash? I have seen wrecked cars not move from a junk yard for years.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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That is another point. Who is really going to dispose of these cars properly after a crash? I have seen wrecked cars not move from a junk yard for years.
Something tells me Volts won't be sitting in junkyards.
There's too many valuable parts in them.

And in case they do go to a storage lot or junkyard, those operators are going to need to know what to do with them.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 11:50 PM
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Something tells me Volts won't be sitting in junkyards.
There's too many valuable parts in them.

And in case they do go to a storage lot or junkyard, those operators are going to need to know what to do with them.
The junkyard was just a metaphor representing the fact that people are retarded when it comes to following procedures. I do agree that with China reall locking down on rare earth's, those Lithium Batteries are going to get jacked. It will be the new copper .
Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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And in case they do go to a storage lot or junkyard, those operators are going to need to know what to do with them.
Heh, lithium + water = hilarity will ensue!

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