Challenger....ummmm...outsells Mustang in February.
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Challenger....ummmm...outsells Mustang in February.
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2009 is also a short year for Mustang too, so I guess well see in '10, but if Challenger and Camaro bury Mustang for the next few years, then America has spoken! 2 ton high performance cars are the name of the game going forward 
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Wow, mustang sales have really taken a hit.
Feb. 2009 vs Feb 2008 was 2,990 and 7,752. The YTD total is down from 14,297 to 5,934. I hope it is due to the new model.
Also, a little more food for thought... Feb 07: 10,772 and Feb 06: 13,367.
Feb. 2009 vs Feb 2008 was 2,990 and 7,752. The YTD total is down from 14,297 to 5,934. I hope it is due to the new model.
Also, a little more food for thought... Feb 07: 10,772 and Feb 06: 13,367.
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I'd rather have a 2010 'Stang over a Challenger. If I had to choose one, I'd still prolly take the new Camaro over the 'Stang though.
.....But the fact that I would have to think about it tells volumes about how not satisfied I am with the way the Camaro turned out
.....But the fact that I would have to think about it tells volumes about how not satisfied I am with the way the Camaro turned out
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Every time I look at how well the Dodge Challenger's doing, I can't help to think how much GM has blown it by not producing a new GTO or a Zeta based coupe to replace the Monte Carlo. I also think how the Camaro (which I feel will be a huge hit) had to be all but rammed through GM in order to see the light of day.
A large RWD coupe that isn't priced like a Mercedes or BMW would be a great selling car for empty nesters and those of us who often find ourselves needing the rear seats, but strongly prefer the sportyness of a 2 door and the performance of a strong engine and the balence of RWD.
Rock solid, Toyota with it's stellar quality reputation can't even move 30,000 Solaras each year, yet supposedly Chrysler, a company that many view as last of Detroit's big 3 in quality and whose very future is regularly questioned is on target to move 35,000 Challengers. Even the Monte Carlo consistantly sold over 30K it's last few years. If there's one thing we here in the US know how to do, it's make big coupes.
Challenger will do even better once Chrysler's future is stablized.
It's a missed opportunity for GM.
Oh... you're one of those guys that still think it's about the engine?
I thought all you started dying out when the last 4th gen rolled off the assembly line.
A large RWD coupe that isn't priced like a Mercedes or BMW would be a great selling car for empty nesters and those of us who often find ourselves needing the rear seats, but strongly prefer the sportyness of a 2 door and the performance of a strong engine and the balence of RWD.
Rock solid, Toyota with it's stellar quality reputation can't even move 30,000 Solaras each year, yet supposedly Chrysler, a company that many view as last of Detroit's big 3 in quality and whose very future is regularly questioned is on target to move 35,000 Challengers. Even the Monte Carlo consistantly sold over 30K it's last few years. If there's one thing we here in the US know how to do, it's make big coupes.
Challenger will do even better once Chrysler's future is stablized.
It's a missed opportunity for GM.
I thought all you started dying out when the last 4th gen rolled off the assembly line.
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Every time I look at how well the Dodge Challenger's doing, I can't help to think how much GM has blown it by not producing a new GTO or a Zeta based coupe to replace the Monte Carlo. I also think how the Camaro (which I feel will be a huge hit) had to be all but rammed through GM in order to see the light of day.
A large RWD coupe that isn't priced like a Mercedes or BMW would be a great selling car for empty nesters and those of us who often find ourselves needing the rear seats, but strongly prefer the sportyness of a 2 door and the performance of a strong engine and the balence of RWD.
Rock solid, Toyota with it's stellar quality reputation can't even move 30,000 Solaras each year, yet supposedly Chrysler, a company that many view as last of Detroit's big 3 in quality and whose very future is regularly questioned is on target to move 35,000 Challengers. Even the Monte Carlo consistantly sold over 30K it's last few years. If there's one thing we here in the US know how to do, it's make big coupes.
Challenger will do even better once Chrysler's future is stablized.
It's a missed opportunity for GM.
Oh... you're one of those guys that still think it's about the engine?
I thought all you started dying out when the last 4th gen rolled off the assembly line.
A large RWD coupe that isn't priced like a Mercedes or BMW would be a great selling car for empty nesters and those of us who often find ourselves needing the rear seats, but strongly prefer the sportyness of a 2 door and the performance of a strong engine and the balence of RWD.
Rock solid, Toyota with it's stellar quality reputation can't even move 30,000 Solaras each year, yet supposedly Chrysler, a company that many view as last of Detroit's big 3 in quality and whose very future is regularly questioned is on target to move 35,000 Challengers. Even the Monte Carlo consistantly sold over 30K it's last few years. If there's one thing we here in the US know how to do, it's make big coupes.
Challenger will do even better once Chrysler's future is stablized.
It's a missed opportunity for GM.
Oh... you're one of those guys that still think it's about the engine?
I thought all you started dying out when the last 4th gen rolled off the assembly line.
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A large RWD coupe that isn't priced like a Mercedes or BMW would be a great selling car for empty nesters and those of us who often find ourselves needing the rear seats, but strongly prefer the sportyness of a 2 door and the performance of a strong engine and the balence of RWD.
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Yeah, I'll be 50 in May and looking for a nice, used 2006 GTO as we speak. I sat in the new Camaro at the auto show last week and was, well, underwhelmed by the interior. Makes me want to cry; my first car was an eight-year-old 1969 Camaro and I really "wanted to want" a 2010. Maybe it'll grow on me by the time I'm tired of the goat.
What I like about the Challenger's look is that it all but dominates everything around it when it parks, despite being no taller and wider than a Camaro, and no longer than a Monte Carlo (that high LX beltline creates the optical illusion).
The interior of the Challenger isn't as almost overstyled as the Camaro, but it isn't quite up to the stylishly good looking level of the Mustang either. The Challenger's interior weak link is the dash itself, but everything else from the GTO-level comfortble seats to the sides are actually pretty nice and seemingly solid.
The panel around the guage cluster is one piece, so there's an aftermarket (or home remedy) opportunity for improvement.
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Downplaying the Mustangs new looks (weather you love it or hate it) and ignoring it's all new interior, while thinking all this is just to tide everything over "till new engines arrive" is the same line of thinking and mindset that would say the "only" reason the 4th gen was cancelled was because of the engine.
Both use the same logic and both are dead wrong.
Consistentcy avoids hypocrisy.
