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CAW Demands "More Time Off." How about "Forever?"

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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Re: CAW Demands "More Time Off." How about "Forever?"

Originally Posted by poSSum
From my experience in negotiations, from the management side, the average union member can't tell the difference between pre-negotiations rhetoric and "this is what we are going to get for you". So at this point, even rolling over the current agreement will come across as a "concession" to the membership and they'll be unhappy.
I think you're missing the point of this rhetoric. The CAW has a far broader memebership than the UAW and the non-automotive members of the CAW have been taking a beating.

In the last few years, the CAW's "boss" has mostly been negotiating pay and benefits cuts for Air Canada employees, as well as severence packages for other non-automotive CAW members who have lost their jobs outright.

On the other hand, the CAW feels that it's dealing from a position of strength with the automotive manufacturers. They're dead wrong, of course.......
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Re: CAW Demands "More Time Off." How about "Forever?"

its just a negotiating tactic.weather they get more time off who knows.



the other side pulls similar crap.
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Re: CAW Demands "More Time Off." How about "Forever?"

Buzz Hargrove has some good points though. We are allowing offshore carmakers to sell their products here, but countries like Japan refuse to let more domestic cars into their countries. We have no access to Korea, but they sell tons here.

Still, Hargrove is going to have to forget about the time off bit. And he has to think more about helping GM out of its current mess, instead of having a confrontational attitude. GM employees are paid well, get good benefits and good vacation time. I don't think he should push it too far this time.
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Re: CAW Demands "More Time Off." How about "Forever?"

Originally Posted by redzed
I think you're missing the point of this rhetoric. The CAW has a far broader memebership than the UAW and the non-automotive members of the CAW have been taking a beating.

In the last few years, the CAW's "boss" has mostly been negotiating pay and benefits cuts for Air Canada employees, as well as severence packages for other non-automotive CAW members who have lost their jobs outright.

On the other hand, the CAW feels that it's dealing from a position of strength with the automotive manufacturers. They're dead wrong, of course.......
I agree with this. The CAW doesn't come down hard enough on its trucking company membership either. If there's one market segment that gets ripped its the truck drivers. They need to get tougher on the Trucking Companies.
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