http://www.caranddriver.com/features...rs-10best_cars


Thoughts?

 

I can't believe the Fit is on the list. I swear every review I have ever read of that car is that it was a POS with terrible build quality.

 

Just remember what a reader's letter to them said about 5 years back: "If you guys held a comparison test where a Honda wasn't even involved, the Honda would still win by default."


And oh yeah, super...the F5 is overweight

 

 

Wow no Corvette, first time in a long time Corvette hasn't made it.

 

Corvette performance = world class.
Corvette everything else = outdated/substandard

 

Yep...
90% of this board seems blind to that fact. Or at least they do in the lounge... not sure about here. Then again considering this is an f-body board it kind of figures people here value performance over everything else.

 

I've never driven a fit but in the reviews I've read it has almost always come out in first place when compared to all of the other cars in its class. I'm sure it's a pretty crappy car to drive relative to most other cars on the market, but compared to cars in its class it's supposedly pretty well built, efficient, and far more engaging to drive.


I'm disappointed to not see the Buick LaCrosse on here but maybe it came out too late or maybe they just don't care for it since it's not at all a driver's car.

 

Where did I set my glasses....

 

Their list doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. Either pick categories, or don't. They've got 3 lux / sport sedans, two regular family sedans (but for the Fusion, only the hybrid makes the list, so is that a separate category?), two sports cars (Miata, Boxster / Cayman, OK so three cars), etc.

Automobile breaks things down by category for their "All Stars" list, and they name their pick along with a few notables / runners-up for a given category.

Car and Driver's list is a goofy hodgepodge. The Vette's interior may not be as pretty as the Cayman's, but neither does the Cayman's performance measure up to the Vette's. The Fit may be the best of the Fit / Aveo / other dinky cars class, but who the fock cares? If you are picking the 10 best overall vehicles, especially for an enthusiast magazine, cars like those shouldn't even be in serious consideration.

Not that any of the vehicles they've chosen are bad vehicles.

As for the Vette, I'd word it more like this:

Corvette Interior = Outdated / could use a freshening
Corvette Everything Else = world class / world beating (if we include the ZR1 / Z06).

 

Every year I can remember, C&D's has been one car per category. I wonder why they changed it this year.

Maybe it's clearer in the print version of the article.

 

Because . . . that's where the money is?

But of course, C&D is perfect and altruistic, and would not be swayed by the amount of advertising/boozing/shmoozing/who slept with whom, would they? I mean, we totally trust our press, right?

 

C&D's 10 Best is no better than any of us picking 10 Cars we like for a certain model year. At least in the past they had to attempt to put the cars they liked into categories now this is what they judge;

I've never understood how some cars qualify and yet some don't. The 3 Series and Accord are not new in 2010 and yet are on the list. The Callenger for instance isn't on the list and yet falls in the price range and on sale requirements. The Hyundai Genesis coupe in on the list but not the sedan. Why?

 

I don't think this is true. They've had more than one car from a given category many times. Last year, IIRC, the 3 series and the CTS also made it (same as this year). Maybe the Audi A4 too. The Accord is almost a given each year, but I think the Malibu also made it last year.

I remember one year the freaking Chrysler minivans made it (before they added a separate field for 5 best trucks / vans / suvs). I mean, they may have been absolute standouts in their field, but one of the 10 best vehicles?

To be fair, there is some rhyme & reason to what they do (some of it can be seen in the blurb that 99Silver SS quoted above). It just isn't entirely intuitive. But I just can't fathom the Vette not being on there, especially when it is considered to be among the best values in all of sportscardom.

They do explain this. Basically, any new / significantly revised car (under the price cap) is eligible, as are any past winners. So the Vette was eligible this year since it was on the list for the previous year. However, next year it won't even be eligible, because it isn't getting a serious revision and it didn't make the cut this year. They figure if the car didn't make it in a given year, and they don't change & improve the car the next year, how could it possibly win the next time unless the rest of the field weakens.

Challenger was eligible when it debuted, but did not win.

 

My thoughts i wouldnt buy any of them !